General MMA discussion and future lines - January 2016

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Think I might play Mir at those odds.

What do you see i dont? I need to check Hunts twitter but for BF he trained his ass off in Thailand. If hes doing same again i really favour him. Mir is not getting him down and standing up this is Hunts fight. I guess Mir has more ways to win tho as he can crack and its HW so maybe its not the smartest bet thinking about it. Stylistically tho a good fight for a motivated in shape Hunt who is tough to take down.
 
If Mir cant take Hunt down his in BIG trouble.

Goodnight fellas.

No doubt about it. On the flip-side though, if he can take Hunt down, Hunt is in BIG trouble. I wouldn't be surprised to see Mir push him against the cage, drop for a leg lock and turn it into a scramble. From there it's only a matter of time. Big "IF" though.
 
What do you see i dont? I need to check Hunts twitter but for BF he trained his ass off in Thailand. If hes doing same again i really favour him. Mir is not getting him down and standing up this is Hunts fight. I guess Mir has more ways to win tho as he can crack and its HW so maybe its not the smartest bet thinking about it. Stylistically tho a good fight for a motivated in shape Hunt who is tough to take down.

No doubt his TDD is hugely improved these days, but I think Mir is crafty enough to get it there somehow. He knows he has as big (or bigger) of an advantage down there as Hunt does standing and I think he'll manage to get it there quickly and make it look easy. I think there's a great chance that somebody will look foolish here regardless of who wins, but I definitely won't touch Hunt at this price and past his prime or not, I think I might actually favor Mir outright.
 
Is there value in Holm by decision over Tate +250 5/2? Opening line with Bet Victor. (KO is -115 20/23.)
 
Is there value in Holm by decision over Tate +250 5/2? Opening line with Bet Victor. (KO is -115 20/23.)

hrmm, yea, probably -- i think that's the likeliest path to victory for holm
 
Can anyone make a good guess at Khabilov's line against Parke? -300?
 
so now that romero got popped for that cuban viagra I guess he is out of a title shot

any guess who will get the next shot

maybe a rematch with belroid or the winner of bisping/anderson

anderson to hold the title in 2016 is +3300 on betfair
 
so now that romero got popped for that cuban viagra I guess he is out of a title shot

any guess who will get the next shot

maybe a rematch with belroid or the winner of bisping/anderson

anderson to hold the title in 2016 is +3300 on betfair
I'd imagine it will be a shitty missmatch vs Vitor since Rockhold wants it.
 
so now that romero got popped for that cuban viagra I guess he is out of a title shot

any guess who will get the next shot

maybe a rematch with belroid or the winner of bisping/anderson

anderson to hold the title in 2016 is +3300 on betfair

Heh actually kinda interesting, the +3300

I heard they might do weidman again...
 
Nik Lentz issues 'non-negotiable' demands to BJ Penn: 'I’m holding the whip hand'

"BJ,
I received your poorly-worded, utterly predictable, message. In spite of its clumsy structure, awful spelling, incorrect usage (you state at one point that I wrote a poem about you making fun of yourself), and general air of arrogance, entitled stupidity, I'm considering your request.

There are, of course, some conditions.

- I'm never competing at 145 ever again. Neither should you. I came to this conclusion after doing careful research, and deciding what was right for my long-term health as well as my short-term performance. If you fight at 145, it won't be long before you're eating banana mush in a nuthouse. I am accountable to my family, and my future with them. Because you are an impulsive tyrant surrounded by yes-men, you have no ability to make rational, intelligent decisions. So I am making this one for you. If we fight, it would be at 155.

- I'm not fighting in March. Neither are you. You may imagine you are, and the imbeciles you surround yourself with may nod in agreement like the trained dogs they are, but you aren't fighting in March. You've lied to your fans, and let them down over and over, and nobody is clamoring to put the BJ PENN EXCUSE FACTORY back in business. Were I to agree to fight you in March and whup your ass, it would only give you and your lackeys the "BJ didn't have enough time" bullshit excuse. Additionally, if we do fight, it will be on MY timetable, NOT yours. You are retired, and have no schedule. I am an active fighter, on the roster, with a schedule and training platform that is not beholden to your desires, grudges, or need for narcissistic supply.

- You still owe Mike Dolce $22,000. Knowing him, he is too gracious and dignified a man to revisit the traitorous back-stabbing skullduggery you engaged in with him after the third time Frankie Edgar kicked your ass inside-out. I, however, don't have the luxury of grace, and dignity is best left out of any exchange that includes you. You will donate $22,000 of your purse to the HAWAII DOG FOUNDATION, a no-kill, all-volunteer rescue organization working hard to rescue and rehabilitate dogs in Hawaii, in Mike Dolce's name.

Give these conditions some thought. They are non-negotiable. They are rules you WILL abide by, or you can go whistle. I have a contract, and plenty of guys to fight. As a Narcissist, you have nothing but an image. And you NEED attention. You have all the money you could ever spend; but it doesn't satisfy you. I have what you NEED. I'M in charge. You can do what narcissists usually do when confronted by a higher power; SLINK AWAY. Or you can confront your needs, realize I can fulfill them, and come to terms with me, looming over you, holding the....

WHIP HAND.

I'm ALREADY in charge, you poor, deluded, fool. I did more to motivate you with TWO POEMS than all your yes-men, and titles, and highlights could.
Get as angry as you want. Go out behind your huge inherited estate and kick rocks. Go cry to your Mommy. Go shit in your hat and bark at the moon.
You want to fight?
Then it's on MY terms.
FACE IT.

Now run along, little man. Go find a way to swallow your overarching pride and do it MY way, or scuttle about like a deformed crab at low tide, like a masochist at last call, desperately looking for somebody else to thrash you.

You can go to Greg Jackson's, you can go to Jermaine Jackson's, you can listen to Mahalia Jackson, you can resurrect Jackson fuckin' POLLOCK to paint you a better picture of yourself than the one we all see; but...

You're an unclaimed, busted-down suitcase on a dusty shelf in an abandoned bus-terminal. Accept my conditions, or rot in obscurity.

Nik Lentz
Your BOSS"
 
Nik Lentz issues 'non-negotiable' demands to BJ Penn: 'I’m holding the whip hand'

"BJ,
I received your poorly-worded, utterly predictable, message. In spite of its clumsy structure, awful spelling, incorrect usage (you state at one point that I wrote a poem about you making fun of yourself), and general air of arrogance, entitled stupidity, I'm considering your request.

There are, of course, some conditions.

- I'm never competing at 145 ever again. Neither should you. I came to this conclusion after doing careful research, and deciding what was right for my long-term health as well as my short-term performance. If you fight at 145, it won't be long before you're eating banana mush in a nuthouse. I am accountable to my family, and my future with them. Because you are an impulsive tyrant surrounded by yes-men, you have no ability to make rational, intelligent decisions. So I am making this one for you. If we fight, it would be at 155.

- I'm not fighting in March. Neither are you. You may imagine you are, and the imbeciles you surround yourself with may nod in agreement like the trained dogs they are, but you aren't fighting in March. You've lied to your fans, and let them down over and over, and nobody is clamoring to put the BJ PENN EXCUSE FACTORY back in business. Were I to agree to fight you in March and whup your ass, it would only give you and your lackeys the "BJ didn't have enough time" bullshit excuse. Additionally, if we do fight, it will be on MY timetable, NOT yours. You are retired, and have no schedule. I am an active fighter, on the roster, with a schedule and training platform that is not beholden to your desires, grudges, or need for narcissistic supply.

- You still owe Mike Dolce $22,000. Knowing him, he is too gracious and dignified a man to revisit the traitorous back-stabbing skullduggery you engaged in with him after the third time Frankie Edgar kicked your ass inside-out. I, however, don't have the luxury of grace, and dignity is best left out of any exchange that includes you. You will donate $22,000 of your purse to the HAWAII DOG FOUNDATION, a no-kill, all-volunteer rescue organization working hard to rescue and rehabilitate dogs in Hawaii, in Mike Dolce's name.

Give these conditions some thought. They are non-negotiable. They are rules you WILL abide by, or you can go whistle. I have a contract, and plenty of guys to fight. As a Narcissist, you have nothing but an image. And you NEED attention. You have all the money you could ever spend; but it doesn't satisfy you. I have what you NEED. I'M in charge. You can do what narcissists usually do when confronted by a higher power; SLINK AWAY. Or you can confront your needs, realize I can fulfill them, and come to terms with me, looming over you, holding the....

WHIP HAND.

I'm ALREADY in charge, you poor, deluded, fool. I did more to motivate you with TWO POEMS than all your yes-men, and titles, and highlights could.
Get as angry as you want. Go out behind your huge inherited estate and kick rocks. Go cry to your Mommy. Go shit in your hat and bark at the moon.
You want to fight?
Then it's on MY terms.
FACE IT.

Now run along, little man. Go find a way to swallow your overarching pride and do it MY way, or scuttle about like a deformed crab at low tide, like a masochist at last call, desperately looking for somebody else to thrash you.

You can go to Greg Jackson's, you can go to Jermaine Jackson's, you can listen to Mahalia Jackson, you can resurrect Jackson fuckin' POLLOCK to paint you a better picture of yourself than the one we all see; but...

You're an unclaimed, busted-down suitcase on a dusty shelf in an abandoned bus-terminal. Accept my conditions, or rot in obscurity.

Nik Lentz
Your BOSS"

wow Lentz ripped BJ a new one :D
 
wow Lentz ripped BJ a new one :D
Yeah!

Now, only if Lentz would put this much energy into impressing MMA fans... If he loses, he should retire from MMA and become a script writer for the WWE.
 
Unibet have some interesting lines. There is a option to play ufc.com rankings. Like fighter to reach/not top 5 or top 10 status by the end of the year. I personally dont like tying my money for that long and maybe you can get better odds betting fighter to win/lose their upcoming matches but maybe there is some gems.
 
I'm loving these lines:

Tarec Saffiedine vs. Jake Ellenberger under 2½ @ +175 (Bet365)

While Saffiedine might have a lot of decisions under his belt he is definitely a dangerous striker and this will only be enhanced by an Ellenberger who is seemingly in Gray Maynard country when it comes to the chin department. Although it takes little to wobble him these days, Ellenberger is still a very powerful guy and will be an offensive threat himself. I feel this line is a straight up steal at + money, it's probably overly skewed by Saffiedine's decision spree in Strikeforce. Even if Saffiedine fights somewhat safe on the outside with a bunch of legkicks I still favour him to connect with something hard enough to get Ellenberger out of there within 2½.

Tom Breese vs. Keita Nakamura under 1½ @ -116 (Betfair)

A gimme fight for Tom Breese, at almost evens he has a whole 7½ minutes to get Nakamura out of there and it obviously also covers in the rare event that Nakamura gets the early finish. I'm sure Breese ITD will be as unplayable as his ML so I'm happy to get some money in early at this price.


I'm also kicking myself for not going harder on Nick Diaz to fight in 2016 @ +2500. Betfair had that prop up for a bit like a month ago and I only put down like .15u :mad:
 
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