UFC 198 - Curitiba - Werdum vs Miocic

[Ukram]

Think most of us are on the big brand popular names coming in, do agree cummings gets the job done he just had no choice against glover who was hitting him like a tank even then cummings got I think 4-5 take downs in r1, I think at this point for nog cummings should be able to use power, wrestling and youth to his advantage.

Still feel Moraes will set up his take downs with his striking better but indeed short notice Chagas could be a real live dog coming in with over 1 weeks notice, think BE said he has a black belt in karate and JJ, and only 22 with that 14-1 record so it does get interesting.

Font looked tall but lineker looked a total tank out there during the weigh ins, can't help but feel that power will be insane come fight night.

Like that alves sub or decision play on b365 may hit that, thanks.

 

[piglord]

If im up healthily im going to bed after Cyborg fight. I pray im not down or i will prob end up until the end!

if i'm up after the cyborg fight i'm pounding the jack daniels silver select and going YOLO on miocic.

 

[Rando]

Is everyone pretty much in agreement Souza is going to probably get the sub win? Or does he win by decision? Just how good is Vitor's TDD and Sub D?

Souza has improved his stand up a lot lately. He actually isn't bad striking now.

To me Vitor just looks old, on the decline, no TRT. I think he can still KO almost anyone, but a much smaller chance of it happening. I think Souza is going to be alright standing if he can defend the initial barrage. IIRC Souza has real slick takedowns and once he is on top of you, its very hard to get up. Submitting Mousasi makes me think he can submit Vitor no issue. Jon Jones submitted him, and in 2005 so did a LHW version of Overeem.

 

[Ukram]

Other strange bets spotted on B365

Justino double chance ko or decision 1.22, still higher then su or her ko line

stipe ko + decision @ 2.87

Worth checking there other double chance plays out

 

[Kowboy Karl]

Im not as confident as most people in Corey and Cummins. I think Cummins wins but hes very one dimensional and if he does struggle for takedowns hes in trouble. Villante knocked Corey out and he struggled with Lawlor who is a MW. I know Shogun has faded but i wouldnt write him off completely in this fight.

I'm on shogun

 

[RyuDave]

If im up healthily im going to bed after Cyborg fight. I pray im not down or i will prob end up until the end!

Same here mate, gone a bit mad on pre bets so just going to hope I'm up too!

 

[letmebangbrah]

do you guys feel safer taking the over 1.5 or cummins ml? i'm not really sure why the over is only 1.5 to begin with.

 

[cs02132]

Other strange bets spotted on B365

Justino double chance ko or decision 1.22, still higher then su or her ko line

stipe ko + decision @ 2.87

Worth checking there other double chance plays out

Wow that stipe line is great. +187 too, I'd def do that instead of his ml. No way he subs werdum

 

[MMA Goodfella]

hedge maia 200 bucks hedge souza 350

Thx bud

 

[iGnP]

@MMA Goodfella who is your favorite play tonight, man

 

[Joseph Budden]

do you guys feel safer taking the over 1.5 or cummins ml? i'm not really sure why the over is only 1.5 to begin with.

Even though I'm pretty big on both, this is a question I've gone back and forth on myself. I think I feel like the o1.5 is the better bet?

 

[cagebrain]

Even though I'm pretty big on both, this is a question I've gone back and forth on myself. I think I feel like the o1.5 is the better bet?

yeah but its -270, those odds are getting pretty long as far as overs go (granted its an o1.5 not 2.5 but still)

 

[Sham5916910]

Every fight on this card is set at o 1.5. Never seen that before.

 

[EzFlyer]

do you guys feel safer taking the over 1.5 or cummins ml? i'm not really sure why the over is only 1.5 to begin with.

The bookies (and I) think lots of finishes tonight ..

 

[Joseph Budden]

yeah but its -270, those odds are getting pretty long as far as overs go (granted its an o1.5 not 2.5 but still)

Yeah, now that Cummins is down to -220 the price is more enticing, but believe when talking about the safer bet its o1.5

 

[cagebrain]

Yeah, now that Cummins is down to -220 the price is more enticing, but believe when talking about the safer bet its o1.5

yeah for sure, but that's reflected in the line as well, so personally IMO its a toss up value wise (granted I'm just staying away from this fight for betting in general)

 

[RyuDave]

Of memory has lil nog been finished on the ground before? I can't think of a single time

 

[cs02132]

Yeah, now that Cummins is down to -220 the price is more enticing, but believe when talking about the safer bet its o1.5

Damn I took Cummins at -260 thinking it was only going up. Planning on adding more and then hedging

Is his fight before lineker? Sometimes BFO doesn't have the order correct.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Damn I took Cummins at -260 thinking it was only going up. Planning on adding more and then hedging

Is his fight before lineker? Sometimes BFO doesn't have the order correct.

Yeah his fight is the one right before Lineker

 

[cs02132]

i am on Cummins but it's also a fade of nog. He has looked shitty recently IMO. I think we're at a stage now where a lot of guys are just done. Bigfoot, big nog, lil nog, frank Mir (IMO), just to name a few need to hang it up. Cummins is 35 as well but he's newer to mma. Plus if you look at his record they really shot him up to the big stages real quick, he's yet to fight a bum in the ufc iirc

Plus if you listen to what Brendan schaub says about nog then it's more reason to fade him. Only thing is that him and his bro were never really shredded but he did look alright to me at weigh ins.

I have risked this amount of $$ before, but only on really juiced soccer games to win $100, never done this amount to win more than $100 before. I have $260 to win $100 and I'm probably gonna do another to win $100 and hedge with nog ko/decision

Same with werdum, 165 to win $100 and probably gonna do another to win $100.