UFC 201 - Lawler vs Woodley - Atlanta

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Thug Rose by sub up to +350. Am I the only one who sees it as a stronger possibility than that? She's been doing jits about double the time KK has been fighting (said on embedded she's been doing jits for 10 years) and KK gets so aggressive I have to believe it's very possible Rose can create a scramble and find an opening to snatch a sub
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Yeah probably some value there. I think her BJJ is overrated tho. So many failed sub attempts vs PVZ that she should have finished.
I'm on it in my event round robin, can't pass up doing something with that line. Hoping PVZ toughness and TAM training is what helped her survive those subs for so long and Rose can snatch something when KK inevitably comes hard at her
 
Thug Rose by sub up to +350. Am I the only one who sees it as a stronger possibility than that? She's been doing jits about double the time KK has been fighting (said on embedded she's been doing jits for 10 years) and KK gets so aggressive I have to believe it's very possible Rose can create a scramble and find an opening to snatch a sub

i like the line.. already on KK though so i will just use it as a small hedge. if Rose wins i think sub is the most likely way for sure
 
Masvidal is a way better wrestler than brooks

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I'm on it in my event round robin, can't pass up doing something with that line. Hoping PVZ toughness and TAM training is what helped her survive those subs for so long and Rose can snatch something when KK inevitably comes hard at her

I'll definitely be on this. I'm not sure how it's overrated, she's submitted some of the top 15 in the division. She might have the best track record in the division as far as results IN MMA. Is there anyone better than her at 115 in the UFC? Claudia has faced better comp and has the best credentials but we haven't seen her utilize it successfully really.
 
Karolina has excellent scrambles and TDD, Rose has to try and clinch as much as possible, but with the movement of Karolina and her combos, it may be a hard sell.

Rose by sub is an excellent hedge though.
Think Rose could definitely frustrate KK by using the jab and footwork to keep range. I fully expect her strategy to be to do so, and let the clinch come to her when KK gets over aggressive to compensate for getting jabbed on her attempts to get inside and land shots.

Interesting fight though, lots of ways this could go imo. Excited for it.
 
Rose NSC -225

...wow. KK itd was like +1000 earlier in week...

How's she finish rose? She has no pop in het hands and rose is the way better sub artist

This -225 prolly pushes but I like it a lot
 
I'll definitely be on this. I'm not sure how it's overrated, she's submitted some of the top 15 in the division. She might have the best track record in the division as far as results IN MMA. Is there anyone better than her at 115 in the UFC? Claudia has faced better comp and has the best credentials but we haven't seen her utilize it successfully really.

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Gadelha?

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Gadelha?

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I'd actually agree with edhan that Rose has a better track record than Claudia. Not saying she'd beat Claudia, but her resume is better. Aguilar and Tiburcio are Claudias biggest wins (could be another one, too lazy to check fight finder) while Rose has wins over Tecia, PVZ, Calderwood and Markos on TUF, and Hill.
 
Wait, am I missing a joke? This to Barry or something ? You aren't being serious , right?

If masvidal wrestle fucks his way to a decision tonight will y'all eat crow?

No trolling legit statement

Masvidal is a better Mma wrestler than brooks
 
I'd actually agree with edhan that Rose has a better track record than Claudia. Not saying she'd beat Claudia, but her resume is better. Aguilar and Tiburcio are Claudias biggest wins (could be another one, too lazy to check fight finder) while Rose has wins over Tecia, PVZ, Calderwood and Markos on TUF, and Hill.

Aguilar was higher ranked than PVZ, Tecia, Markos or Calderwood. Hell some guys were saying she could be number 1 SW.
Tiburcio was an Invicta champ.

Quality of Gadelha's wins are far superior. She just squeaked passed Tecia.
 
If masvidal wrestle fucks his way to a decision tonight will y'all eat crow?

No trolling legit statement

Masvidal is a better Mma wrestler than brooks
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Aguilar was higher ranked than PVZ, Tecia, Markos or Calderwood. Hell some guys were saying she could be number 1 SW.
Tiburcio was an Invicta champ.

Are you really bringing ranking into this? I'm sorry but the rankings are to be taken with a grain of salt as those people who make the rankings aren't even respected by most of MMA media. And some of MMA media have never done an athletic thing in their life, let alone practice any martial art. Who has Aguilar beaten? Esparza, like forever ago.
 
Are you really bringing ranking into this? I'm sorry but the rankings are to be taken with a grain of salt as those people who make the rankings aren't even respected by most of MMA media. And some of MMA media have never done an athletic thing in their life, let alone practice any martial art. Who has Aguilar beaten? Esparza, like forever ago.

Rankings?

Aguilar was a champ and Tubricio was a champ.
 
Aguilar was higher ranked than PVZ, Tecia, Markos or Calderwood. Hell some guys were saying she could be number 1 SW.
Tiburcio was an Invicta champ.

Quality of Gadelha's wins are far superior. She just squeaked passed Tecia.
Could make an argument either way, I guess. I think Tiburcio is a solid win, but not as good as Roses resume. Just seems deeper on paper to me, especially when it's all finishes but Tecia. Aguilar is the only win who's better than Roses resume, or at least everyone on it but Tecia.
 
I don't even think edhan was bringing up wins/losses, he was just saying Rose has had the most success with her BJJ in the SW division and i'd agree. Her guard is dangerous and she's dominant from top position.
 
I don't even think edhan was bringing up wins/losses, he was just saying Rose has had the most success with her BJJ in the SW division and i'd agree. Her guard is dangerous and she's dominant from top position.
Yeah that's not arguable. The level of competition Rose has subbed is far and away better than anyone else
 
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