UFC 202 - McGoat vs Diaz II - Vegas

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michi972 said:
I think Story's fight with Gunnar was just a single good performance against fighter who is better now
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also worth noting that fight was highly competitive for the first 3 rounds. gunnar got cracked in r4 and that's when story started taking over. gunnar should be at lightweight, i don't think he even cuts weight. a lot of that fight was a striking match at range, if he isn't able to get on the inside against cerrone he's in deep trouble.
 
Another pic of Nate

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b365 got more props out, also double chance props, connor by ko or decision @ 1.90, diaz by sub or decision 3.25, just in case anyone feels cardio connor turns up.

Connor sub r4/r5 @ 101
 
Sham5916910 said:
Is that legit? Best hes ever looked if so
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It's from the embedded I think. He looks amazing, no more skinny fat.

I'm at bit worried that everyone is in Diaz, this year that has been a sure sign of a McGregor win. But then I saw Barry picking Conor so now I'm confident in Nate again...
 
Sham5916910 said:
Is that legit? Best hes ever looked if so
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Its genuine, its in one of the vids posted 1-2 pages back, nate was doing a few push ups to get that pic, but yeah looks in great shape.
 
weedreference said:
I admit it, I'm putting money on Lobov again. Higher chance to finish, and I think he will win a lot of decisions. Way more experience and way better competition faced. He needs this win badly. Avila almost seems like a gift from the UFC for being an entertaining brawler. He seems to be better against righties. His anti grappling is very likely to hold up. And I believe he has under performed (and it was a bad matchup against Hall and White seems to have improved).

A surprising about of reasons. With Avila, on the other hand, the best reason seems to be "he's facing Artem Lobov."
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Ill probably throw some on Lobov too. I thinks this is the fight he finally wins. Avila seems to be taylor made for making Lobov rebound. This will be a just-for-fun bet because I always follow the rule: "dont bet on guys that suck".

Barkus said:
Condit totally changed his style in the sense that he scaled back his aggression and beat Nick Diaz pretty cleanly. I think Conor could do the same to Nate. Really I think Conors best path to victory is to do is pace himself and pick his shots and he would cruise to a decision.

But after losing control of his emotions yesterday I'm doubtful he's going to fight smart. The Diaz bros thrive on baiting their oppenents to fight into their strength. They want fighters to sit in the pocket and trade. Conor needs to be calm, conservative and fight to get the W, that's it. If he's fighting for anything more than that because of his anger he's probably going to lose.
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To do what Condit did you need two things that Conor lacks:
1) Good basic muay thai.
2) Not be in reach disavantage.

You could add gas tank. Conor has not the tools to make that kind of fight. If he wants to win he needs to finish Diaz quick.

piglord said:
also worth noting that fight was highly competitive for the first 3 rounds. gunnar got cracked in r4 and that's when story started taking over. gunnar should be at lightweight, i don't think he even cuts weight. a lot of that fight was a striking match at range, if he isn't able to get on the inside against cerrone he's in deep trouble.
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I remember that fight pretty clear because I was high on Nelson at the time. That was the night I realize he is not top 5 material (maybe not even top 10).
I thought it was a pretty clear decision for Story.

Regarding Story-Cerrone fight.. I dont know why people can be confident on Story. He is too inconsistent. If he shows up we have a fight but he has let us down a lot of times.
I also think that Cowboy is far better fighter almost everywhere.
 
plekz said:
one prefers to work in space to constantly have places to move, and the other wants to crowd you against a cage wall and keep you there?
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Why the '?' mate? There's no need to be an ass. I was genuinely curious how you think their styles differ.

Edit: I personally think their styles are similar enough that they have the same strengths to be avoided and weaknesses to be exploited.

Anyway, this fight is probably going to be a no bet (or possibly will just live bet). Though the pro Diaz crowd on this board is makes a good case.
 
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I noticed on SHERDOG there's an extra fight listed, Marlon Vera vs Ning. On the UFC.com page it isn't listed. Certainly no odds for it. What's up with that?
 
I can never get used to how out of place Jake looks when the Diaz's go Diaz. He looks like he's trying to fit in so hard, lol.
 
Rebel_LioN said:
I noticed on SHERDOG there's an extra fight listed, Marlon Vera vs Ning. On the UFC.com page it isn't listed. Certainly no odds for it. What's up with that?
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Fight got moved because Ning got busted for chinese meat.
 
mkess101 said:
If I could get those odds I'd bet way more on props than normal. Those lines are absolutely insane. 5d isn't even close. Where the f are you getting those lines? Whoever is offering them are absolutely clueless. You have Conor who has a good chin but faded in the last fight but may try to not blow his was quite so quickly this time. You have Nate who has cardio for days but is a finisher and can end the fight multiple ways. Diaz rd 4 and Diaz rd 5 are actually pretty likely ways this thing ends. Not telling you what to do, but I'd add at those odds if you are actually really small on them. I know you don't like props, but ffs if the books make huge mistakes like that you gotta take advantage. If the fight isn't over by rd 3 you can probably hedge out of some of those props anyway with LB. .
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