UFN 96 pbp/discussion

Dodsons next fight will likely be decent odds parlay fodder, a fight he will easily win. Linekers chin just ridiculous.
 
1.5u Lineker DEC +900
0.15u Lineker Split DEC +20xx

Fuck yeah
 
lol i played lineker dec/cardinals/patriots as my hail mary. £40 returns £406.

i guess i'll know tomorrow if it was a good night.
 
Oblivian said:
Dodson would have won that if he had a fauxhawk, tattoos, and acted like he really wanted to throw down.
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Are you implying you think Dodson should have won based on accuracy metrics and its a just bleed mentality that led the judges to score it for Lineker? Or am i way off base.
 
Up 8 units! I called that fight spot on wish id pre bet not just lb it. Lineker dec was massive like 6 units!
 
Lineker is the most basic, simplistic fighter in the UFC. If that dudes chin wasn't borderline untouchable, he would be 50/50 in the octagon
 
mkess101 said:
That's just stupid. He "ran" but landed more and some were clean. Look at Lineker's face for fuck's sake. Moving forward is fine but it's not the only strategy. Rock em sock em robots isn't a requirement. Dodson had a strategy and if you look at the #'s it worked.

I'm not saying Dodson got robbed either. It was 2 different styles. Both guys did their thing, both had their moments, super close fight. To say it was a robbery either way makes zero sense.
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Don't bother with that dumb fuck. He is a derp tard and doesn't deserve any more attention
 
wack3d said:
liniker dec and split lines saved the night :) was down 10+u and ended even pretty much
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I was in the same position!! -13u 2h ago, but I made a comeback with Otto Cowboy and Lineker to end +2u.

Good end for a terrible day at least
 
mkess101 said:
That's just stupid. He "ran" but landed more and some were clean. Look at Lineker's face for fuck's sake. Moving forward is fine but it's not the only strategy. Rock em sock em robots isn't a requirement. Dodson had a strategy and if you look at the #'s it worked.

I'm not saying Dodson got robbed either. It was 2 different styles. Both guys did their thing, both had their moments, super close fight. To say it was a robbery either way makes zero sense.
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Where are u seeing Dodson landed more?
 
mkess101 said:
That's just stupid. He "ran" but landed more and some were clean. Look at Lineker's face for fuck's sake. Moving forward is fine but it's not the only strategy. Rock em sock em robots isn't a requirement. Dodson had a strategy and if you look at the #'s it worked.

I'm not saying Dodson got robbed either. It was 2 different styles. Both guys did their thing, both had their moments, super close fight. To say it was a robbery either way makes zero sense.
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I don't think its that stupid. His face looked that way b/c he had to force the exchanges. Dodson ran the whole fight; Lineker could have accepted that Dodson probably was going to look to counter due to his style and play against that and then it would have just been them looking at each other. It's an entertainment industry, its pretty ridiculous when you train year round and then when your time to fight comes like 2-3x a year you avoid the fight to win on scorecards.
 
wack3d said:
liniker dec and split lines saved the night :) was down 10+u and ended even pretty much
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Best bets of the year by far those last two fights on the card. Was down 11units ish until Brooks vs. Cowboy. Ending the night in +30 units. Sick swing!
 
cberasi said:
Are you implying you think Dodson should have won based on accuracy metrics and its a just bleed mentality that led the judges to score it for Lineker? Or am i way off base.
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I don't think Lineker really had much offensively. It's no secret that someone pushing forward winging punches sways judges and even fans. Dodson doing a stick and move while feeling uncomfortable when pressed against the cage in a few exchanges doesn't mean Lineker is winning the exchanges. If you look at actual best strikes landed in that fight, Dodson had those. If you look at damage, Dodson had it. If you look at total strikes, Dodson had it. Lineker pushing forward (not very effectively) and putting on the showmanship very likely swayed how people looked at that fight. That's part of the game though. Not a robbery at all, but Dodson playing the matador role while Lineker playing the just bleed role was a factor there.
 
cberasi said:
I don't think its that stupid. His face looked that way b/c he had to force the exchanges. Dodson ran the whole fight; Lineker could have accepted that Dodson probably was going to look to counter due to his style and play against that and then it would have just been them looking at each other. It's an entertainment industry, its pretty ridiculous when you train year round and then when your time to fight comes like 2-3x a year you avoid the fight to win on scorecards.
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Jesus Christ, go and watch backyard brawling videos on YouTube because MMA isn't for you.

The whole point of combat sports is to hit without getting hit, brawling is stupid. Get over it.
 
cberasi said:
Are you implying you think Dodson should have won based on accuracy metrics and its a just bleed mentality that led the judges to score it for Lineker? Or am i way off base.
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The thing is, it's not like Dodson's strikes were meaningless half assed leg kicks and jabs. He landed POWER shots just like Linker did. He just did it in a far different way. I agree with giving the nod to the guy moving forward IF the other guy is moving away without landing effectively. But that quite obviously wasn't the case here. Again, look at the head kicks and power shots landed by Dodson.

That's not to say it was a robbery and that Lineker didn't have good spots too. He landed, had nice flurries, and made it an extremely close fight. I don't have a huge problem with the decision. I just hate the "Herp Derp don't run!" mentality in fights like this when the guy comes in with a strategy, implements it and LANDS power shots, and then people say he "ran". It's stupid. Against almost anyone else one of those head kicks ends the fight but Lineker (and apparently Dodson too) has an inhuman chin. So because he ate all those shots that means Dodson "ran" the whole time? LOL sorry, but no.

(Yeah, I know your question wasn't for me ha ha!)
 
mkess101 said:
That's just stupid. He "ran" but landed more and some were clean. Look at Lineker's face for fuck's sake. Moving forward is fine but it's not the only strategy. Rock em sock em robots isn't a requirement. Dodson had a strategy and if you look at the #'s it worked.

I'm not saying Dodson got robbed either. It was 2 different styles. Both guys did their thing, both had their moments, super close fight. To say it was a robbery either way makes zero sense.
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I will play advocate for the other side

Dodson's inactivity is why going forward and throwing haymakers won Lineker the dec
Dodson would pop him, but would wait as much as 90 seconds before throwing again, with that volume, the 3-4 exchanges against the fence that Lineker got him in were more worthy of winning the round

You cant count damage based on Lineker's face, a jab can do more visible damage than an overhand but Lineker most definitely did more damage tonight

We also absolutely know what the judges like at this point, and those exchanges were Lineker landed a couple of grazing shots, Dodson got out of the way and Lineker kept a close distance to start another one is why Lineker won

I wouldn't have been upset if Dodson won, but imo the right man won
 
Brick Top said:
Jesus Christ, go and watch backyard brawling videos on YouTube because MMA isn't for you.
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Combat sports wouldn't exist at this level unless they get paid. They won't get paid unless it contributes to being an entertainment industry. Whether or not its the best strategy, they chose to get into this field to fight professionally on a nationally televised sport. It won't succeed if success is dictated by winning rounds on points. Half the roster trains year round to claim this as their income and when the time comes to apply their trade they do everything but avoid the ultimate conflict they intended to enter into the first place. Whatever, agree to disagree.
 
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