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Wish id watched tape on yair now. Looking over his record he impressed me in the filli fight but otherwise he has not blown me away to justify this price. Pls let lb be kind to us on this fight.
@Buddy Brown
You may need a few more years of experience gambling, but talking people out of betting huge skilled dogs is amateurish.
Looking for value is the most important thing in gambling. His grappling advantage alone is enough to justify this huge price.
The time to talk someone out of a bet is like when that guy was touting not cerrone tKo @ -700 vs cote, now that is a dangerous bet. There is almost no risk involved in getting a former world champ @ above +350 and every sharp capper wants to take a line like that when it comes up.
They are absolutely terrible fights 90% of the time, but they're actually fun to watch and there's always good finishes. The card last night was very entertaining. No ads, next fight starts instantly, over in a couple of hours. Won't take you long to get up to speed, it's just like low level UFC WMMA but more entertaining on average.I will prob join ya all fights are on fp. Im starting from scratch tho so gonna take me a few events to get up to speed.
You'll lose the value if you wait 'til he looks good during the fight to lb him.That's not something I do but I don't blame you, whatever floats your boat. Just saying there's no reason to put a serious bet on BJ before the event. If he comes out looking good I'll bet on him live, but I'm just not going to assume he'll look good beforehand
Yeah it was -450 or something, not -700 (and I know embellishing months later to prove your point is kinda commonplace so it's not just you that does it) and I was floating it out there as possible parlay fodder. I never ended up betting it. Please don't try to talk me out of anything ever though, I've done just fine on my own over the years. But thanks buddy.
Yeah but as I said betting on him prefight is just a complete guess. No recent tape to go off, 7 years since a win, looked like a shell of himself in every beating he's took since, has even ADMITTED 2 years ago that he doesn't have it in him to fight anymore...You'll lose the value if you wait 'til he looks good during the fight to lb him.
I'll be honest I had a dream last night where BJ knocked him out at the end of the 1st and maybe that's clouding my judgement a bit lol. Still think there's value at +333 though.
Bro it's 3 to 1 dog money, that's the reason. At evens I'd be on Yair.No it's not.
There's looking bad, then there's looking like a complete and utter laughing stock and retiring in the post fight presser and admitting you shouldn't have come back
If you want to bet on him for fun because it's BJ and you're a fan, fine, but there's literally no reason to put a serious bet on him. He hasn't won a fight since 2010 and has took a beating that's sad to watch every time he's returned
I guess Yair could be wreckless and make a mistake on the ground early, but otherwise BJ is going to gas early like he always does and be a sitting duck. That's not enough for a serious bet.
Okay Mr. Patronising. I've had plenty of experience. Pointless assumption.
Okay buddy, keep acting like you can make long term profit on "value" bets where there's no tape to go off whatsoever in the last 7 years to prove the fighter you're betting on can even beat low level fighters, never mind legit prospects.Regardless of you current experience you don't understand the concept of value, some people it takes years and years. Sometimes without someone like EZflyer to show the way some people will never understand it.
It's just hard to read people giving amateurish advice like it's fact. Carry on tho.
I remember yari almost subbing rosa a couple of times, had a really tight triangle locked inYeah i remember that fight it was pretty close too if i recall correctly?
You touted it at -530, yeah my bad. No one even knew I was talking about you and I wasn't trying to embarass you. But even you admitted after the fight that it was a bad play, and to me that is just a good example of a time someone should try to talk someone out of a bet.
Just trying to point out the difference in the numbers and implied values in each situation. Not hurt any egos.
I used to think just like you. I'm starting to understand the notion of finding value in a bet. BJ at +333 in this spot screams value. People are totally overrating his opponent here. Who has Yair actually beaten to make him such a legit prospect?Okay buddy, keep acting like you can make long term profit on "value" bets where there's no tape to go off whatsoever in the last 7 years to prove the fighter you're betting on can even beat low level fighters, never mind legit prospects.
I'll keep doing what I'm doing and making consistent profit every year.
Yeah i remember that fight it was pretty close too if i recall correctly?
BJ's last good win was in 2009...I used to think just like you. I'm starting to understand the notion of finding value in a bet. BJ at +333 in this spot screams value. People are totally overrating his opponent here. Who has Yair actually beaten to make him such a legit prospect?
I used to think just like you. I'm starting to understand the notion of finding value in a bet. BJ at +333 in this spot screams value. People are totally overrating his opponent here. Who has Yair actually beaten to make him such a legit prospect?