UFC 213 pbp/discussion

I'm guessing he's referring to this

https://myspace.com/jrdenn
Yes. Before I exposed MMAGF months ago, this person had a facebook you could find by searching MMAGF's name. And had a pic in a UFC shirt. No point in arguing whether or not its actually him, just hard to believe there is another JR Dennison who loves UFC enough to wear a shirt.
 
Lol , I didn't know that MMABettingtips charges 40$ per week
 
MMAGF is a tout and a bad one at that. Personal attacks aside, MMAGF is here to help himself and gain visibility for his tout service.

Its transparent.
 
I will say this in Goodfella's defense: he was posting his bets and breakdowns long before he had a tout service.
 
I will say this in Goodfella's defense: he was posting his bets and breakdowns long before he had a tout service.

I don't have a huge beef with someone being a tout. What annoys me is when someone pretends to be something they are not.

He is a tout that recently lost 100u. Instead of just owning up to reality he will write long bs posts.
 
you're never gonna convince each other of anything, goodfella/joseph

idk why you keep rehashing the same stuff
 
I know I am late to the party. I didn't watch much this weekend. Just caught up and saw the Justin v. Johnson fight. Damn son what a scrap. Justin is going to have a short but wonderful career. Freakin love watching him fight. Glad to see he got paid too.

I could watch that fight on repeat all day.
 
did budden buy losing picks off goodfella?
 
I haven't read your guys back and forth, but pretty sure I know the gist of it. Unit size does matter if you aren't showing any other statistics with it. Most feel unit size should universally be 1% of bankroll, but I really don't think that holds true for a lot of people. Some just define their unit size as X at the beginning of the year and never adjust even if they are up or down big that year. I do think "inflated unit size", which is actually "deflated unit size", is an issue when people talk about winning like 50 units in an event. If they defined their unit size differently, it would be a lot less. So in a way it really exaggerates results, however, it does the same for losses as well.

To me, it's not really an issue as long as you have other stats like ROI. Someone like MMABettingTips used to bet a shitload of units per event, but he never posted other stats either. When I calculated his ROI, it was pretty fucking low although his units won made it seem like he was doing solid. He very purposely didn't have ROI on there. Actually, I think he went as far as posting ROI after I gave him shit and then removed it when he redid his site because it was very low.

Right on. In my case I have over $20,000 and bookmaker as I never let it get above this anymore for multiple reasons. So a $600 play falls well within kelly criterion and that is being super generous. Sometimes I'll make I want hundred dollar or $150 or the occasional $1100 play or more. It's not inflating units when most people count $50 as a unit or $100 as a unit and I make an occasional four figure bet. That means between 3 and 11 units a bet depending on confidence. So that is not exaggerating. Do you agree with this?

Furthermore, like you said, the more you exaggerate your units risk, the worse it is going to work if you are not successful. If you go on a week losing spree betting 20 units a part you're going to find yourself in a hole that is unable to recover from. At the end of the day your ROI percentage means more than your unit size if people do not know what your bankroll is. Right?

I don't even like doing the whole unit thing. The only reason that I do is because that's the only way a third-party tracking system lets you place wagers.

Is there anything wrong with the way I'm using my system?
 
Right on. In my case I have over $20,000 and bookmaker as I never let it get above this anymore for multiple reasons. So a $600 play falls well within kelly criterion and that is being super generous. Sometimes I'll make I want hundred dollar or $150 or the occasional $1100 play or more. It's not inflating units when most people count $50 as a unit or $100 as a unit and I make an occasional four figure bet. That means between 3 and 11 units a bet depending on confidence. So that is not exaggerating. Do you agree with this?

Furthermore, like you said, the more you exaggerate your units risk, the worse it is going to work if you are not successful. If you go on a week losing spree betting 20 units a part you're going to find yourself in a hole that is unable to recover from. At the end of the day your ROI percentage means more than your unit size if people do not know what your bankroll is. Right?

I don't even like doing the whole unit thing. The only reason that I do is because that's the only way a third-party tracking system lets you place wagers.

Is there anything wrong with the way I'm using my system?
Do you think everyone is just retarded or what? What a bunch of horseshit this all is lol

A typical bankroll is $10,000. A typical unit for said bankroll is $100. A unit is a 1% reflection of your bankroll. This is how it works, a viable disciplinary strategy taught to all gamblers who use Google as a means of consistency, until you and the rest of the scumbag touts decided to redefine how units work for your own benefit. LMAO @ you thinking anyone knowledgeable is gonna take you seriously when you say "I have a $20k bankroll but count 50 bucks as 1u"

Yeah, and that exaggeration hurt you when you lost over 70u in a month didn't it? lmfaooo
 
Right on. In my case I have over $20,000 and bookmaker as I never let it get above this anymore for multiple reasons. So a $600 play falls well within kelly criterion and that is being super generous. Sometimes I'll make I want hundred dollar or $150 or the occasional $1100 play or more. It's not inflating units when most people count $50 as a unit or $100 as a unit and I make an occasional four figure bet. That means between 3 and 11 units a bet depending on confidence. So that is not exaggerating. Do you agree with this?

Furthermore, like you said, the more you exaggerate your units risk, the worse it is going to work if you are not successful. If you go on a week losing spree betting 20 units a part you're going to find yourself in a hole that is unable to recover from. At the end of the day your ROI percentage means more than your unit size if people do not know what your bankroll is. Right?

I don't even like doing the whole unit thing. The only reason that I do is because that's the only way a third-party tracking system lets you place wagers.

Is there anything wrong with the way I'm using my system?

I think most people use 1%, so your unit size would be $200. A lot of people don't follow the 1% though, including non-touts. A lot of people just define their unit size as X. This discussion used to always come up in the threads years ago. Saying someone is up _______ units really meant jackshit as everyone defines it differently. I know for a fact a lot of people never even define their bankroll. So how the hell can they come up with 1%? They don't, they just pick a #. Your # does seem low though.
 
Yes dude Im sure you've convinced people I'm wrong and not to look into you by displaying how triggered you are

I am triggered? Dude I am literally laughing all the way to the bank! I want people to go look at my numbers. That's why I created a third-party tracking site just so that I couldn't be labeled as a fraud. But I don't even sell my picks here, that's the crazy thing about it all...That I made a post with my results AFTER the event when there wasn't but maybe two people in the entire room. But yeah, I'm really looking to sell plays here. That makes sense.

I made one little innocuous post and you have turned it into a 24 hour ad campaign. I've had more traffic to my site in the last eight hours than the last month combined. All stemming from jealousy. Jealousy that I am tracking my plays and you are not. That I have a good weekend and you failed miserably. Which happens to everyone but you take your e-rage out on me.

So ask your self again, why in the world would I be triggered lol I think you're absolutely hilarious. A clown show..Strike that..Clown shoes. A pair of clown shoes. A virtual stalker. But based on your #Brolic avatar and simultaneous obsession with "unit sizes" it all makes sense. I don't know. about the loyalty of your faction of #elitee goofs that want to "look into me" but I know I have more PMs than Steph Curry has threes telling me not to even engage with your creepy ass. But how can I not try and help the specially abled. I'm a fan of the 1992 lead paint chip you contest. Still upset you placed fourth in the bath salt competition, but it was hard to really get in there wearing the helmet.
 
I am triggered? Dude I am literally laughing all the way to the bank! I want people to go look at my numbers. That's why I created a third-party tracking site just so that I couldn't be labeled as a fraud. But I don't even sell my picks here, that's the crazy thing about it all...That I made a post with my results AFTER the event when there wasn't but maybe two people in the entire room. But yeah, I'm really looking to sell plays here. That makes sense.

I made one little innocuous post and you have turned it into a 24 hour ad campaign. I've had more traffic to my site in the last eight hours than the last month combined. All stemming from jealousy. Jealousy that I am tracking my plays and you are not. That I have a good weekend and you failed miserably. Which happens to everyone but you take your e-rage out on me.

So ask your self again, why in the world would I be triggered lol I think you're absolutely hilarious. A clown show..Strike that..Clown shoes. A pair of clown shoes. A virtual stalker. But based on your #Brolic avatar and simultaneous obsession with "unit sizes" it all makes sense. I don't know. about the loyalty of your faction of #elitee goofs that want to "look into me" but I know I have more PMs than Steph Curry has threes telling me not to even engage with your creepy ass. But how can I not try and help the specially abled. I'm a fan of the 1992 lead paint chip you contest. Still upset you placed fourth in the bath salt competition, but it was hard to really get in there wearing the helmet.
Yes man clearly not triggered when you write 3 paragraphs about me trying your absolute best to sound clever.

Like you said, you have a tracking site. I'm just encouraging anyone fooled by your shit to look at that site, look at your jackass posts about $50 = 1u on a $20k bankroll, and realize theres more to it than the garbage you spew cause morality is clearly not something youre concerned with, just like all the other touts who have been following this trend thats likely to persist til people get educated on how units work of inflating units to help promote their pay services.
 
Yes man clearly not triggered when you write 3 paragraphs about me trying your absolute best to sound clever.

Like you said, you have a tracking site. I'm just encouraging anyone fooled by your shit to look at that site, look at your jackass posts about $50 = 1u on a $20k bankroll, and realize theres more to it than the garbage you spew cause morality is clearly not something youre concerned with, just like all the other touts who have been following this trend thats likely to persist til people get educated on how units work of inflating units to help promote their pay services.

Dude, do you have a problem with capitalism? Do you have a problem when people put in 20 hours a week of research and sell their picks? Their knowledge? It isn't intended for the people here, I provide all of my breakdowns and picks and even my bets (save for three of them) in the original bet thread. now please tell me how in the world that could be seen as anything other than being helpful to the community?

Has anyone ever be robbed by me? You have created a strawman and your issues with Luca and other touts whom you deem scam artist have been painted with a broad brush and I am unfairly caught in those brushstrokes.

Do you have a problem with people making money. Do you go to your local bank and tell the financial advisors that they are crooks for giving stock tips? That is analogous to what you were doing with me. And don't say that I am advertising on here because I am not. I made one post after the event was over. I didn't give a link to my site or nothing, all I did was post results. I never in a million years would thought anyone would have problem with that.

What's more, I find it hard to be a scam artist when I have a money back guarantee dummy.
 

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guys take it to PM's, seriously. we've been thru this. deleting any further stuff in this thread on this subject
 
Yes man clearly not triggered when you write 3 paragraphs about me trying your absolute best to sound clever.

Like you said, you have a tracking site. I'm just encouraging anyone fooled by your shit to look at that site, look at your jackass posts about $50 = 1u on a $20k bankroll, and realize theres more to it than the garbage you spew cause morality is clearly not something youre concerned with, just like all the other touts who have been following this trend thats likely to persist til people get educated on how units work of inflating units to help promote their pay services.

Finally,, answer this. Anyone answer this earth that I think it's wrong.

How am I inflating units when I have a $20,000 bankroll and make between 3 and 11 unit bets? Following Kelly most people do 1% and 3% of their BR. So aggressive bettors use up to 3% which is standard.

Well, 1% of 20,000 is $200 which is a 4 unit bet when $50 equals a unit.

A 3% bet of $20,000 is a $600 bet which is a 12 unit play. Still using Kelly.

Now if you cannot understand this, I don't know what to do for you. Does anyone here know understand that?
 
Dude, do you have a problem with capitalism? Do you have a problem when people put in 20 hours a week of research and sell their picks? Their knowledge? It isn't intended for the people here, I provide all of my breakdowns and picks and even my bets (save for three of them) in the original bet thread. now please tell me how in the world that could be seen as anything other than being helpful to the community?

Has anyone ever be robbed by me? You have created a strawman and your issues with Luca and other touts whom you deem scam artist have been painted with a broad brush and I am unfairly caught in those brushstrokes.

Do you have a problem with people making money. Do you go to your local bank and tell the financial advisors that they are crooks for giving stock tips? That is analogous to what you were doing with me. And don't say that I am advertising on here because I am not. I made one post after the event was over. I didn't give a link to my site or nothing, all I did was post results. I never in a million years would thought anyone would have problem with that.

And you still never explained yourself. How am I inflating units when I have a $20,000 bankroll and make between 3 and 11 unit bets? Following Kelly most people do 1% of their bank roll while others are often aggressive with 3% of their BR. Well, 1% of 20,000 is $200 which is a 4 unit bet when $50 equals a unit. Additionally, making a 3% about $20,000 is a $600 bet which is a 12 unit play. Now if you cannot understand this, I don't know what to do for you. Does anyone here know understand that?

What's more, I find it hard to be a scam artist when I have a money back guarantee dummy.
You are really desperate to spin this lol jesus

Only thing I have a problem with is deceitful scumbags who have to inflate their numbers to take advantage of a market. That IS robbing people. Anyone who uses units the way they are defined lost more than 70% of their bankroll over the course of a month following you less than a year ago. Idk how thats anything but robbery lol

Dude, i'll happily call out scumbags in any profession. its kind of pathetic how you jump from one excuse to the next for your actions. This post its "Im making money! whats wrong with that?!?"

I did explain myself regarding your fraudulent definition of units up a few posts. Its very simple to understand, but you think everyone who reads these posts are retarded and will buy your bullshit.

Also, LMFAOOO!!!! @ you contradicting yourself "Following Kelly most people do 1% of their bank roll while others are often aggressive with 3% of their BR. Well, 1% of 20,000 is $200 which is a 4 unit bet when $50 equals a unit." So wait...most people are aggressive and use 3% of their bankroll = 1u. Yet you think youre not a scumbag when on your tout site you are defining .25% of your bankroll as 1u? What?!? LMAO!
 
guys take it to PM's, seriously. we've been thru this. deleting any further stuff in this thread on this subject
Na dude cut the fucking shit letting this scumbag promote his fraudulent site. Taking it to the PMs defeats the purpose of letting everyone know to look deeper into this fake.
 
Finally,, answer this. Anyone answer this earth that I think it's wrong.

How am I inflating units when I have a $20,000 bankroll and make between 3 and 11 unit bets? Following Kelly most people do 1% and 3% of their BR. So aggressive bettors use up to 3% which is standard.

Well, 1% of 20,000 is $200 which is a 4 unit bet when $50 equals a unit.

A 3% bet of $20,000 is a $600 bet which is a 12 unit play. Still using Kelly.

Now if you cannot understand this, I don't know what to do for you. Does anyone here know understand that?
so what is a 100u bet? $5000? so u can lose 100u 4 times before your bust. 1% is 1u. 1% isnt 4u.
 
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