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I'm down 5u I'm gonna gamble 5u on the all American to get back to even.
Weidman SUB is +861... isn't he supposed to be really good on the ground? Can anyone comment on KG's grappling
Weidman SUB is +861... isn't he supposed to be really good on the ground? Can anyone comment on KG's grappling
Kelvin has really good back taking skills and a nice rnc to go with it. He got a couple guys on tuf with rnc's and all of his real (by real I mean not that sub by punch bs) pro sub wins have been by rnc. Other than that I haven't seen anything from him to suggest he'll be throwing up a really good guard or something if the Chris takes him down. He also hasn't had a sub win since Ellenberger like 2.5 years ago.
Weidman hasn't had a sub win since late '11 when he d'arced Filthy Tom unconscious. He seems to have decent front headlocks but I'm not sure he'll get Kelvin with them. Might be worth a flier though at that price though, but then again I love to bet the big +money props so I'm a bit biased.
That's a super line. As I said, I have a really hard time seeing Weidman get a decision so it's either sub or GNP to win.
that's a good point, also I wonder how much Chris has been working on his grappling since he's lost three times in a row all by ko (I know the Gegard one doesn't count as much but still). It wouldn't surprise me if he's really been trying to get back to the wrassling and sub stuff, his skills are there, and Kelvin's become such a good striker. He SHOULD try to be getting td's and passing to set up chokes and stuff but who knows where Chris's head is at, atm.That's a super line. As I said, I have a really hard time seeing Weidman get a decision so it's either sub or GNP to win.
Magny was able to out grapple Gastelum for two rounds and even had his back in the second round I believe. I feel like Weidman is happier just going w punches but I can see him grabbing an RNC if he were in a similar situation. Magny was able to land 6 takedowns against Gastelum! Idk, I guess the price is forcing my hand in making a play on Weidman SUB
that's a good point, also I wonder how much Chris has been working on his grappling since he's lost three times in a row all by ko (I know the Gegard one doesn't count as much but still). It wouldn't surprise me if he's really been trying to get back to the wrassling and sub stuff, his skills are there, and Kelvin's become such a good striker. He SHOULD try to be getting td's and passing to set up chokes and stuff but who knows where Chris's head is at, atm.
Why doesn't the Mousasi knockout count as much? I know it was a questionable call but it was pretty inevitable that weidman was going down sooner than later. He was gassed and was getting destroyed with mousasi stand up. Facts are facts and weidman has gotten finished in his last 3 fights and has gassed in each of them.
Magny was able to out grapple Gastelum for two rounds and even had his back in the second round I believe. I feel like Weidman is happier just going w punches but I can see him grabbing an RNC if he were in a similar situation. Magny was able to land 6 takedowns against Gastelum! Idk, I guess the price is forcing my hand in making a play on Weidman SUB
Is it possible that the Magny fight was just an off night? He's never showed that flaw in any other fights really.
Chris is just taking a lot of damage. It catches up. The Moose fight probably was the most damage of them all because it wasn't quick.
If this was 3 I'd probably take the Chris here. But I really think he's gonna be in bad shape half way through
In my opinion this will look like Kennedy/Gastelum. Weidman will have early success taking Gastelum down and/or controlling him. As the fight goes on he will get more tired and Gastelum will get his boxing going.
Against Gastelum the boxing went well, but don't forget Weidman is another 3" bigger as does he have 4" more reach compared to Kennedy. So does his boxing really get going? I have my doubts. Also because Gastelum hasn't proved himself against top tier fighters.
Good point @vkram
Maybe I shouldn't touch this match. Odds are maybe set right with no value on both sides.