UFC 215 - Johnson vs. Borg - Alberta, Canada

[wack3d]

having trouble understanding why henrique is +155. i haven't watched tape yet on bhullar, but he's only fought one norable dude (yager, who's not quite ufc level) and he seems to be a grinder.. most of his fights go deep.. (sadly the over is 2.5 here, heh, i would've pounded O1.5 at this price)

henrique is gonna be the bigger dude.. he's faced some way better dudes.. let's not forget he won rd 1 vs ngannou in his ufc debut and he's only 24, still..

i think i read that bhullar trains with DC? but seems like a small HW.. henrique ON PAPER seems like the side.. he's an indian dude who grew up in canada, think he was on canadian olympic team..

but again, i haven't watched tape yet. anyone have thoughts?

there is no real tape avaliable on Bhuller unless you are going to pay to watch his fights on youtube.. all we know is he was an olympic wrestler and he was one of Cormier's sparring/training partners for the Jones fight

 

[wack3d]

Thinking about a big bet on the o4.5 on the main event. I guess main concern is that Borg blows his load early and then loses in r3 or r4 but I really think this hits the cards... thoughts?

-110 just seems very attractive for the over in a MM fight.

dont think its worth it.. MM is more deadly then ever imo subbed a BJJ black belt in his last fight and KO'ed Cejudo in R1 not long ago.. Borg never gone past 3 either or been in there with someone like MM

 

[Ballsaque]

Something I wonder about on this forum; why the heck do most people have 10+ bets per event? I'm betting for 10 years now and the main thing I learned: the biggest advantage over a bookie is that you don't have to do anything while a bookie (in order to be competitive) has to offer almost everything. In other words; bookies will make mistakes with odds etc, but it won't be 10+ per event (i guess). So isn't it more profitable to bet a few things per event?

(i can imagine this is the wrong thread, but the last 10 posts made me write this. Lines are up and everybody is pounding bets)

You answered your own question. The more bets the more ability to take advantage of market inconsistency and bookie mistakes.. Many people just buy a price because they will be able to leverage it later if they expect other side to get bet and so on

 

[null]

Thinking about a big bet on the o4.5 on the main event. I guess main concern is that Borg blows his load early and then loses in r3 or r4 but I really think this hits the cards... thoughts?

-110 just seems very attractive for the over in a MM fight.

I love the under 4½ and MM ITD here. He's finished 6 out of his 11 title defenses and Ray Borg is yet another fighter getting rushed into a title shot because they have few contenders at flyweight. Borg is also on record during the UFC 215 media conference call as saying he's going to go in there like a wildman with nothing to lose. Then he caught himself and said "but technical". MM says he's going to stop Borg and I believe he will.

 

[Ballsaque]

I see where you're coming from but you can also look at this this way; an Olympic caliber wrestler is facing a guy whose main weapon is his wrestling/grinding.

We heard that "olympic caliber" stuff before. I want to see it in action before I believe he will automatically beat anyone who wrestles as well. It's not usually how it works in practice

 

[ill800]

Mcmann is -275?


Guess I'm going large on this card

Schevy tko up to +709

the sub on Pena was flukey and I think it's more likely she gets the tko

 

[wack3d]

We heard that "olympic caliber" stuff before. I want to see it in action before I believe he will automatically beat anyone who wrestles as well. It's not usually how it works in practice

dont think we had that many of them in the ufc? Lindland,Coleman,McMann,Comier,Romero,Henderson,Cejudo? they all had a alot of succes in the ufc

 

[vkram]

We heard that "olympic caliber" stuff before. I want to see it in action before I believe he will automatically beat anyone who wrestles as well. It's not usually how it works in practice

Sure, having Olympic credentials doesn't really mean as much as it may seem. If anything collegiate wrestling translates the best to MMA as it rewards control more than other styles. I just don't think that Henrique's style suits him, he is a grinder who tends to gas. Perhaps the over is the play here, two guys who will be primarily looking to wrestle and both have covered the over quite often in their past fights.

 

[Ballsaque]

dont think we had that many of them in the ufc? Lindland,Coleman,McMann,Comier,Romero,Henderson,Cejudo? they all had a alot of succes in the ufc

They did, but many was decently polished when they got their.. for instance, Cejudo, Henderon and Romero gets most done with their standup, this dude seems to be just starting out.

Need to see something from him.. I havent even been able to find a decent vid and he's a fav over a guy whos proven to at least beat the mid tier HW consistently and easily..

 

[null]

Mcmann is -275?


Guess I'm going large on this card

Schevy tko up to +709

the sub on Pena was flukey and I think it's more likely she gets the tko

I love the Shevchenko KO/TKO line at that price. I can see that happening late rounds with ground & pound to a tired Nunes like Cat Zingano did.

 

[Tony J]

way way too slow.

Also very hittable which ties into the slowness, and not an exceptional athlete or anything. The TAM move is interesting though. I'm staying away since Tucker beating Sicilia literally meant nothing to me.

 

[Ballsaque]

Also very hittable which ties into the slowness, and not an exceptional athlete or anything. The TAM move is interesting though. I'm staying away since Tucker beating Sicilia literally meant nothing to me.

I get it, though i think Tucker styles aaaall over Glenn. badly.

 

[piglord]

Mcmann is -275?


Guess I'm going large on this card

do you think that mcmann is parlay fodder?

 

[ill800]

I love the Shevchenko KO/TKO line at that price. I can see that happening late rounds with ground & pound to a tired Nunes like Cat Zingano did.

I'm playing that and rds 3-5

Odds are ridiculous

 

[ill800]

do you think that mcmann is parlay fodder?

Took her ml but yes

I'll probably hit her itd prop as well when it' releases.

I'm really liking this card for betting

 

[Bodybuilder]

Bhullar is a very small HW, he's 5'11, definitely not the 6'1 the UFC site lists him as. He should be a LHW.
His striking is improving but still very slow and amateurish at times.

Henrique has never impressed me, his striking is probably on the same level as Bhullar's, maybe slightly better.
Henrique has a BJJ advantage and a bad gas tank.

I think the odds should be closer to even or maybe a very slight advantage to Bhullar.
Really hard to say with the lack of tape on Bhullar.

 

[rev0lver]

Do you guys think there's a chance Bhullar-Henrique moves closer to evens? I want to play Bhullar but not at that price, it seems odd to me

 

[EzFlyer]

Took some henrique +160. Seems to me bhuller is a 205'er fighting at hw. Not much power & Totally unproven.

Henrique is a gorilla. Kid is way younger and fought way better dudes.

 

[weedreference]

Something I wonder about on this forum; why the heck do most people have 10+ bets per event? I'm betting for 10 years now and the main thing I learned: the biggest advantage over a bookie is that you don't have to do anything while a bookie (in order to be competitive) has to offer almost everything. In other words; bookies will make mistakes with odds etc, but it won't be 10+ per event (i guess). So isn't it more profitable to bet a few things per event?

(i can imagine this is the wrong thread, but the last 10 posts made me write this. Lines are up and everybody is pounding bets)

Degeneracy. Entertainment factor is important as well.

And luckily MMA lines are ridiculously soft, so you can get away with it.

 

[TheOneTrueKing]

Do you guys think there's a chance Bhullar-Henrique moves closer to evens? I want to play Bhullar but not at that price, it seems odd to me

play henrique at 2.6 if u need nearly evens to play bhullar no?