UFC 217 - Bisping vs GSP - NYC

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Haven't been following this forum much but Brown and Duffy are my two biggest ML plays.

Brown's striking is above average yeah. But the skill gap between him and Gall I think will be very noticeable. Brown's grappling is serviceable enough for this, Gall isn't a BJJ worldbeater for beating an old WWE guy and barely edging Sage "I tap to fake chokes" Northcutt with a lucky haymaker. Gall will gas fast too.

I actually like Vick and I thought he went under the radar for a while. But he can be suuuuper sloppy. Duffy's going to take advantage of his holes easily. Edit: For all of you talking about the striking being even or not much of a difference, remember that Vick is a guy who got KO'd by Michael Chiesa
 
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Gugabe said:
Duffy's boxing is superior to Beneil's? Wake me when Duffy beats a top 15, top 20, top 25, top 30, top 35, top 40, top 45, top 50, top 55, top 60 or better LW.

The competition that Duffy's beaten has gone 7-13 in the UFC, and nobody Duffy has beat has gone on to win a single bout in the UFC afterwards. People hold up him 'being competitive for a round guys' on the feet with Poirer, who had an actual striking battle with Jim Miller and is possibly the most overrated top 15 LW. I'd take Vick straight up over Poirer, and I think that Duffy's about to be welcomed to the real side of the UFC by looking downright shit-house.
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Duffys hands are better than dariushs im not saying hes a better fighter but his hands are better. You can only beat whose in front of you and duffy has squashed everyone hes faced. Dp wrestlefucked him but was getting lit up at range in r1. Vick isnt wrestlefuckin fuckin duffy this is gonna be a standup fight and you can see duffy has very good hands regardless of comp hes faced. Trujillo is not the same fighter post usada and reyes is terrible with a glass jaw. Matthews was outstriking vick until he fonted. Vick has no defence and horrible tall man defence hes gonna get a boxing lesson. Last time i bet against vick was against dariush and im even more confident in duffy here
 
rev0lver said:
Haven't been following this forum much but Brown and Duffy are my two biggest ML plays.

Brown's striking is above average yeah. But the skill gap between him and Gall I think will be very noticeable. Brown's grappling is serviceable enough for this, Gall isn't a BJJ worldbeater for beating an old WWE guy and barely edging Sage "I tap to fake chokes" Northcutt with a lucky haymaker. Gall will gas fast too.

I actually like Vick and I thought he went under the radar for a while. But he can be suuuuper sloppy. Duffy's going to take advantage of his holes easily. Edit: For all of you talking about the striking being even or not much of a difference, remember that Vick is a guy who got KO'd by Michael Chiesa
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Tbf chisea was gnp from mount but i did not like how vick just quit
 
Fucking lul at Hendricks being +255. Bangbus closed at +226 against Borrachinha.

I thought Hendricks looked just fine on the scale. He's batshit crazy, but if there's anyone with a working brain in his camp, he's going for takedowns one after another. May get ktfo, or may make Borrachinha gas in the first round.
 
Thanks to the kind folks over on Ohmbet letting me hit the 8.00 line for GSP all week (and me not having a huge unit size, yet) I'm gonna be up big on the main event whoever wins! This card is going to be great!!! I'll see you degenerates in the PBP thread tonight!
 
I know I know Jonny is washed up... but Jonny KO round 1 @ 101.00 on paddypower is ridiculous.
 
The hype is starting to make me doubt JJ... But I know Rose sucks really haha
 
Rose looked broken at weigh ins. Practically crying reciting a prayer quivering. Damn
 
One thought on Mas - WB I'm wondering about: If the fight is very close, Mas could in this case be likelier to get the dec regardless the long string his past split losses, because WB is the gatekeeper and and Mas is the contender. It's not like Mousasi - Shlemenko, but still, isn't it so, that the promotion favourite might have slight edge in these situations?
 
BatBoyJG said:
Some people are betting a guy who was panic wrestling, pulling guard, and needed a Hail Mary overhand right to to win a fight against a dude a weight class under him and is one of the worst fighters in the UFC. I can not let this go unnoticed, please it’s not too late to switch over to Randy Brown... do it now full throttle.
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I really question if people watch that Sage/Gall with total bias. He had Sage down within the first minute without taking any damage. Gets to half quickly and passed to side eventually. He tries going to mount before Sage scrambles. That's when he grabs the neck trying a guillotine without having guard. When Sage gets out, he starts attacking the leg. Sage blatantly grabs the fence and is warned. Positioning may have changed at that point without the fence grab. That's when Sage pulls out and stands up. Sage stands up and starts acting cocky, but he doesn't really land anything before Gall catches a kick for another takedown. Gall literally ends up in mount by the end of the round.

I've literally seen people say that Sage was finding his groove in round 1 standing. When the hell was that happening? He was on his ass again within a few seconds without landing and then was put back down. I've seen people say Sage did ok on the ground. Sure, he didn't get subbed, but he gave up a pass and was mounted by the end of the round. Most importantly, I don't think Gall took a lick of damage that entire round.

In the first 30 seconds of round 2, that is where Sage lands. It's not anything that rocks Gall, but he goes down inviting Sage down. It's similar to what we've seen Werdum do a lot. In the next 30 seconds, both are landing left hooks. I will admit Gall is throwing pretty wild lunging in, but he's also not eating anything flush. That's when he lands the big overhand right. Shortly after that, it's over.

Sage was maybe winning 1 minute of that fight, and again, nothing major landed. Gall landed the hardest punch, had the best positioning on the ground, grabbed the sub, landed both takedowns that he attempted, etc. Sure, it's just a win over Northcutt, but it's amazing to me people act as though the fight was even close.
 
Rose R1/2 is 17.0 and R2 is 34.0 at Unibet/Betsafe.
 
Gugabe said:
Son. You're not going to like this news, but betting on Duffy is a #Casualplay as the McGregor link, along with Irish degenerates, has meant that Duffy has been consistently juiced throughout his lackluster UFC career. Vick's 7-1 at LW, whilst Duffy's UFC career is marked by that most Irish thing of a glorious defeat. Dude's out of his depth on the ground, and is going to learn about the amount of levels in this sport.
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Son. Vick is 7-1 because he fights bums. Horrible thing to use as a reason to bet him. He's not a good fighter. LOL @ out of depth on the ground just because Vick d'arced washed up, post USADA vegan Trujillo. He has zero wrestling and his defence is laughable. It's clear as day Duffy is more skilled.
 
Oblivian said:
I really question if people watch that Sage/Gall with total bias. He had Sage down within the first minute without taking any damage. Gets to half quickly and passed to side eventually. He tries going to mount before Sage scrambles. That's when he grabs the neck trying a guillotine without having guard. When Sage gets out, he starts attacking the leg. Sage blatantly grabs the fence and is warned. Positioning may have changed at that point without the fence grab. That's when Sage pulls out and stands up. Sage stands up and starts acting cocky, but he doesn't really land anything before Gall catches a kick for another takedown. Gall literally ends up in mount by the end of the round.

I've literally seen people say that Sage was finding his groove in round 1 standing. When the hell was that happening? He was on his ass again within a few seconds without landing and then was put back down. I've seen people say Sage did ok on the ground. Sure, he didn't get subbed, but he gave up a pass and was mounted by the end of the round. Most importantly, I don't think Gall took a lick of damage that entire round.

In the first 30 seconds of round 2, that is where Sage lands. It's not anything that rocks Gall, but he goes down inviting Sage down. It's similar to what we've seen Werdum do a lot. In the next 30 seconds, both are landing left hooks. I will admit Gall is throwing pretty wild lunging in, but he's also not eating anything flush. That's when he lands the big overhand right. Shortly after that, it's over.

Sage was maybe winning 1 minute of that fight, and again, nothing major landed. Gall landed the hardest punch, had the best positioning on the ground, grabbed the sub, landed both takedowns that he attempted, etc. Sure, it's just a win over Northcutt, but it's amazing to me people act as though the fight was even close.
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Dude Sage is terrible, and is a lightweight. You can’t actually believe that was a good showcase of Gall’s skills. I don’t think Sage has stopped a takedown from anyone ever so who cares if Gall got him down again Sage is a lightweight who moved up to fight Gall. Pulling guard, & throwing sloppy ass punches as you look to be tiring significantly against a bum is not good.
 
Sham5916910 said:
Do you want my bank details ;)
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Don't act like it's impossible. I know that it's very unlikely, but Gadelha dropped her in r1 and KK wobbled her in their fight too.
I'm not betting these props, but I wouldn't be shocked if JJ gets hurt early.
 
JJ ITD +194 now have to take a small shot here could easily see Rose slowly getting broken down and the ref jumping in at some point
 
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