UFC 234 Whittaker vs Gastelum

usernamee said:
For all Sherdog Doctors.

"Ringworm is very common. Anyone can get ringworm, but people who have weakened immune systems may be especially at risk for infection and may have problems fighting off a ringworm infection."
https://www.cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/ringworm/risk-prevention.html

"You're at higher risk of ringworm of the body if you:
  • Have a weakened immune system"
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ringworm-body/symptoms-causes/syc-20353780

"It’s a common skin condition that tends to occur when your immune system is compromised, "
https://clicks.co.za/health/article-view/9-complications-of-ringworm


Idiots thinking having fungus can't be linked with his immune system being weakened. All I said was that it is very likely his immune system is trash right now and there is definitely a possibility his body is battling a flu.

Then the Sherdog Doctors all jumped in line.
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So you basically have little to no evidence he has a weakened immune system or any actual meaningful medical condition just a very loose 'what if?' scenario that can be linked to literally anything your immune system normally fights.

This debate is so pointless.
 
Jordan3399 said:
So you basically have little to no evidence he has a weakened immune system or any actual meaningful medical condition just a very loose 'what if?' scenario that can be linked to literally anything your immune system normally fights.

This debate is so pointless.
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What I said is still more correct than people saying it has zero correlation with your immune system. Hence my response. Pointless debate yes.
 
usernamee said:
Because, as stated above, reasons for having ringworm in the first place can be due to having a weakened immune system. What are you likely to have or get with a weak immune system, a flu. That was all I said ever. Then people lambasted me over ringworm has zero correlation with a weak immune system.

Also, flu or not. I wouldn't want to have an infection that my body has to fight off during weight cut a day before a 25 minute fight.
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You are more susceptible to getting it if your immune system is weak or has been weakened.

The flu is a pretty serious virus. Shuts most people down completely for a week or two

You would t get ringworm because you have the flu, and vice versa

It has zero correlation with the flu

That’s a lot of speculation

And it’s dr Sherdog, thank you
 
usernamee said:
Because, as stated above, reasons for having ringworm in the first place can be due to having a weakened immune system. What are you likely to have or get with a weak immune system, a flu. That was all I said ever. Then people lambasted me over ringworm has zero correlation with a weak immune system.

Also, flu or not. I wouldn't want to have an infection that my body has to fight off during weight cut a day before a 25 minute fight.
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It says that people with weakened immune system may be especially at risk. That does not mean your immune system has to be weakened to have it.
 
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Can anyone describe how Anderson Silva possibly could win this fight?
 
How do yall see Crute-Alvey playing out?

Hard to get a sense of how good Crute is, he fucked up some bum on the TNCS, boxing and leg kicks looked good, but his defense looked bad. His grappling looked good against Craig surprisingly, now he's being given the Alvey puzzle. If the fight stays on the feet I see Alvey winning a typical low output decision, maybe testing Crute's chin like he did Prachnio. I don't see Crute's wrestling being good enough to get Alvey down, so Alvey should be -150 imo.
 
Shoulder said:
Can anyone describe how Anderson Silva possibly could win this fight?
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Face rearranging knees from the clinch a la rich Franklin

Catch him with something

Flying arm triangle

By decision

Flying Bruce lee kick to sternum

Steven seagal front kick

Crane kick

Triple lindy
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He’s got a much better chance than fedor did against Bader and the odds are way wider.
 
zeckdo said:
How do yall see Crute-Alvey playing out?

Hard to get a sense of how good Crute is, he fucked up some bum on the TNCS, boxing and leg kicks looked good, but his defense looked bad. His grappling looked good against Craig surprisingly, now he's being given the Alvey puzzle. If the fight stays on the feet I see Alvey winning a typical low output decision, maybe testing Crute's chin like he did Prachnio. I don't see Crute's wrestling being good enough to get Alvey down, so Alvey should be -150 imo.
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Crute is just too open defensively and too raw overall for Alvey's counter striking game. I would give Crute a better chance if I thought he could get Alvey down, but his wrestling just isn't good enough in space and Alvey a bear on the fence/in the clinch. I see Crute running into a heavy counter early, but can't go big given Crute probably takes home a decision if the fight is remotely close.
 
Taped Buren/Martinez. Both guys are pretty low level, Martinez the more effective range striker with his kicks and probably the more skilled grappler. That said Buren should have a substantial size/strength advange coming down from 145 whereas Martinez was noticeably smaller then Souk at 135 (most regional fights were 125 I beleive). There is a clear scenario where Buren just uses his strength to bully Martinez and grind him against the fence and from top position. Seems like a 50/50 fight to me, might stab Buren dec as I don't see him finishing the scrappy Martinez.
 
zeckdo said:
How do yall see Crute-Alvey playing out?

Hard to get a sense of how good Crute is, he fucked up some bum on the TNCS, boxing and leg kicks looked good, but his defense looked bad. His grappling looked good against Craig surprisingly, now he's being given the Alvey puzzle. If the fight stays on the feet I see Alvey winning a typical low output decision, maybe testing Crute's chin like he did Prachnio. I don't see Crute's wrestling being good enough to get Alvey down, so Alvey should be -150 imo.
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crute leaves his hands low at the wrong times, i think he may get starched
 
For all you guys worrying about KG health need I remind you that Moraes basically had aids leading up to his last fight and finished Assuncao in the first?

These are high level fighters with high level immune systems. KG will look just as sloppy as always and surprisingly probably fucking win.
 
i also really wonder about crute's gas tank, he throws with venom and is ridiculously jacked. he was taking huge breaths on the ground against craig and i wouldn't be surprised if he slows in a striking match. alvey could be a good live bet if he's taking a beating early - i don't think his chin is cracked just yet.
 
piglord said:
crute leaves his hands low at the wrong times, i think he may get starched
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that bouncing around he does is a terrible habit and waste of energy. if he comes out doing that this fight, he will lose, if he doesn't, that would be a sign of big improvement.
 
Crute is so bad. Can't believe he's being touted as some sort of legitimate prospect when is so mediocre everywhere and probably going to get KO'd by Alvey rushing in with his terrible defence. Alvey is one of the few decent dogs on the card.
 
A big factor for me in Whittaker/Gastelum is Whitts preparation. He's one of the best at it and always comes in with a perfect gameplan. Kelvin is very predictable with his limited arsenal of mainly a 1-2. Rob has had about 7 months to prepare for this fight and has always had a strong focus on fundamentals. His arsenal consists of mostly long range weapons whereas Kelvin excels in the pocket and I don't expect Rob to engage there.

At current odds I think the O2.5 is a much better play than Whittaker ML.

I ended up with:
Whittaker -190 $500
Whittaker/Gastelum O2.5 -160 $640
Whittaker UNAN DEC +275 $100
NOT Whittaker ITD -175 $200
Gastelum RD1 KO +1600 $25
 
Sadistics said:
A big factor for me in Whittaker/Gastelum is Whitts preparation. He's one of the best at it and always comes in with a perfect gameplan. Kelvin is very predictable with his limited arsenal of mainly a 1-2. Rob has had about 7 months to prepare for this fight and has always had a strong focus on fundamentals. His arsenal consists of mostly long range weapons whereas Kelvin excels in the pocket and I don't expect Rob to engage there.

At current odds I think the O2.5 is a much better play than Whittaker ML.

I ended up with:
Whittaker -190 $500
Whittaker/Gastelum O2.5 -160 $640
Whittaker UNAN DEC +275 $100
NOT Whittaker ITD -175 $200
Gastelum RD1 KO +1600 $25
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I love posts like this. Not a long drawn out explanation. It helps I agree with it all LOL.
 
Sadistics said:
A big factor for me in Whittaker/Gastelum is Whitts preparation. He's one of the best at it and always comes in with a perfect gameplan. Kelvin is very predictable with his limited arsenal of mainly a 1-2. Rob has had about 7 months to prepare for this fight and has always had a strong focus on fundamentals. His arsenal consists of mostly long range weapons whereas Kelvin excels in the pocket and I don't expect Rob to engage there.

At current odds I think the O2.5 is a much better play than Whittaker ML.

I ended up with:
Whittaker -190 $500
Whittaker/Gastelum O2.5 -160 $640
Whittaker UNAN DEC +275 $100
NOT Whittaker ITD -175 $200
Gastelum RD1 KO +1600 $25
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So why isn’t Whitaker going to try to replicate Chris Weidmans gameplan?
 
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