Street fights: Trained vs. Untrained

I never undertand that mindset where they want to fight someone and they grab you instead of punching you, it's like you are mad enough to put your hands on them, but too much of a bitch to actually throw a strike. I think the guy getting knocked out deserve it. Don't put your hands on someone without expecting to get hit back, specially don't mess with someone's clothing.
 
First beauty in this episode begins ~ 0:10
He grabbed only his clothing in one! area with both hands !, leaving opponent's both hands free!, didn't watched anything below this area. Interesting method to start his first attempt ''saflely'' deal with opponent.
Later next beauties happened, a lot of wonderful '' technique ''.

usually if there are any skills and to grab opponent is preferable solution and opponent grabbed, something immediately is done with him.
 
Oblivian said:
I call bullshit that he doesn't have some form of martial arts training.
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This. You don't throw that kick like that with pure luck and instinct.
 
Madmick said:
This. You don't throw that kick like that with pure luck and instinct.
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No one without some form of fighting experience, study, or training would even try to throw that kick. We have loads of street fight videos that show what the average person resorts to with punches and kicks. You don't see people spamming spinning kicks like that. People throw kicks like they are kicking at a freaking soccer ball. People windmill punches. People are so gullible.
 
BonesWinckleJones said:
He really doesn't,he was fighting as a kid but never trained mma or any kind of martial arts
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Bullshit, you're taking the word of a "professional prankster". It goes against all instinct to throw a kick like that. The odds are astronomical for someone to randomly throw a spinning kick, retain their balance, have the flexibility to get the leg up, accurately hit the head, put enough weight in it to get a KO, and all in a high pressure situation on a whim.

No one is saying he's any good or worked hard, but that wasn't a random kick he never threw before.
 
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Oblivian said:
I call bullshit that he doesn't have some form of martial arts training.
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yeah there is no way, I cant even lift my leg that high. Dude has some type of karate or ballet training.
 
Oblivian said:
No one without some form of fighting experience, study, or training would even try to throw that kick.
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Without drilling this is not possible, of course.
However, if we talk about enough serious experience or good training, then NO, also 0 grappling skills for both of them.
Because starting with 0:10 his opponent a) gave reason to resist with force b) grabbed his clothing in manner, to be extremally!!!! vulnerable for many methods of counter actions. This first clothing grab method might be called as best gift to any grappler or striker.
If he started serious resistance after 0:10 he had many chances to owercome opponent and the major chance to have legal excuse, because his clothing grabbed and he pushed.
After this another episodes shows, where he already had chances to win him with ease.
However in 1:00 he had no serious self defense situation and far less chances to effecively deal with opponent. However he choosed to attempt deliver this kick.
 
He even looked over his shoulder before impact like he had trained it a thousand times! Full of bullshit!
 
It’s pretty easy to drill that kick as a kid just messing around like Uriah hall. I believe he was untrained...

If you watch violent shows, cartoons, and video games I don’t think that qualifies as training
 
JabToucher said:
He even looked over his shoulder before impact like he had trained it a thousand times! Full of bullshit!
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Haha out of everything I say the look back is a pure give away he knew what he was doing. To get that rotation and be able to look at your target before the kick lands is tough even when training. I would always get shit from coaches because I would watch my foot the whole time. I mean if this is true this guy is a phenom and needs to get his ass in a gym so he can win some titles.
 
biscuitsbrah said:
It’s pretty easy to drill that kick as a kid just messing around like Uriah hall. I believe he was untrained...

If you watch violent shows, cartoons, and video games I don’t think that qualifies as training
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I've got kids in tae kwon do with older kids as well. Most are not going to be hitting a kick like that without quite a bit of training. If you watch their first few attempts, it's almost laughable.

Honestly, I'm shocked people really would think this guy hasn't trained or drilled. Almost every male has "drilled" punching or messing around, yet we have hundreds of street fight videos that show most can't even throw a simple punch properly. Yet miraculously, you have someone land a KO spinning kick to the head with a look back while holding his balance with "no training".
 
One dude gets beatdown, his friend is about to but then the camera pans to another KO'd dude

 
What a punk...beaten up non trained drunks...perfect example of a punk right there...
 
KO dude looked like he was swatting flies instead of throwing punches. Somebody train him when he wakes up.
 
The second leg kicks come out in a fight an untrained guy should really rethink his decisions.
 
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