UFC on ESPN+ 30: Kattar v Ige

God what an awful fucking fight Belbita v Jojua is. I'm in the minority that actually like WMMA, but I genuinely refuse to believe that either of these two are among the best in the world. Bring in fucking atomweight instead of this shitshow, at least Lindsey VanZandt actually knows how to strike

Anyway, given I hadn't heard of either fighter I figured that I'd probably want to bet Liana Jojua. Then I searched her on Fight Pass and realised she's the girl who got dominated by Sarah fucking Moras. Yikes. Maybe it's Octagon jitters, but her striking was timid and she obviously couldn't get out from under Sarah's beanbag ass. With that said, she did clearly have some semblance of top control and ability to take her opponent down, and you could see that the boxing fundamentals were there even if she wasn't applying them properly. And as much as I genuinely believed Sarah Moras was the worst woman on the roster, she is at least semi-legit at BJJ, so I guess it's not THAT much of an indictment to not be able to stop her from sitting on your face

Then we have Belbita. Belbita strikes kind of like Nick Diaz mixed with Ronda Rousey mixed with Elias Theodorou, in the sense that she has Diaz's strategy of basically flailing her arms about at her opponent (but without mixing in power shots or moving to the body), Ronda's boxing technique, and Elias Theodorou's power. Given she kept pushing forward against Molly I figured I'd be betting her, but holy fuck this girl has no ability to get off the ground at all. She doesn't seem to have much submission defence either, and honestly it seems like the only reason Meatball Molly didn't submit her was because she wanted to get a KO (or because she doesn't actually have offensive BJJ, it's probably that ngl)

So there we have it. Two chicks who for whatever reason are unable to get off of the ground, where one is mentally weak but has sound enough technique and the other is a fucking warrior that has maybe been doing three months of MMA classes which she took up purely for self-defence

In this fight you're literally betting on who you think has improved the most since their last fight, and who wants to be in the UFC more. Belbita is the safer play because she actually wants to be in the Octagon, but honestly it could go either way and on current odds I'd lean FDNGTD purely because of the odds
 
Tirimasuperman said:
God what an awful fucking fight Belbita v Jojua is. I'm in the minority that actually like WMMA, but I genuinely refuse to believe that either of these two are among the best in the world. Bring in fucking atomweight instead of this shitshow, at least Lindsey VanZandt actually knows how to strike

Anyway, given I hadn't heard of either fighter I figured that I'd probably want to bet Liana Jojua. Then I searched her on Fight Pass and realised she's the girl who got dominated by Sarah fucking Moras. Yikes. Maybe it's Octagon jitters, but her striking was timid and she obviously couldn't get out from under Sarah's beanbag ass. With that said, she did clearly have some semblance of top control and ability to take her opponent down, and you could see that the boxing fundamentals were there even if she wasn't applying them properly. And as much as I genuinely believed Sarah Moras was the worst woman on the roster, she is at least semi-legit at BJJ, so I guess it's not THAT much of an indictment to not be able to stop her from sitting on your face

Then we have Belbita. Belbita strikes kind of like Nick Diaz mixed with Ronda Rousey mixed with Elias Theodorou, in the sense that she has Diaz's strategy of basically flailing her arms about at her opponent (but without mixing in power shots or moving to the body), Ronda's boxing technique, and Elias Theodorou's power. Given she kept pushing forward against Molly I figured I'd be betting her, but holy fuck this girl has no ability to get off the ground at all. She doesn't seem to have much submission defence either, and honestly it seems like the only reason Meatball Molly didn't submit her was because she wanted to get a KO (or because she doesn't actually have offensive BJJ, it's probably that ngl)

So there we have it. Two chicks who for whatever reason are unable to get off of the ground, where one is mentally weak but has sound enough technique and the other is a fucking warrior that has maybe been doing three months of MMA classes which she took up purely for self-defence

In this fight you're literally betting on who you think has improved the most since their last fight, and who wants to be in the UFC more. Belbita is the safer play because she actually wants to be in the Octagon, but honestly it could go either way and on current odds I'd lean FDNGTD purely because of the odds
Click to expand...
Too long to read for a wmma fight .
Anyway thanks for sharing
 
Sadistics said:
Ugh BOL voided Gordon bets, listing him as Jordan instead of Jared. 1/4 of my bet gone.
Click to expand...
I'd be willing to bet they wouldn't have voided that bet if the line went in their favor smh..Now I hope you really smash them this week
 
Anyone else taking Ige vs Kattar over 2.5 rounds at -140?

besides picking Kattar outright I think this is close to a lock. If Ige survived Barbosas onslaught at the beginning of their fight, I think he can survive 2.5 with Kattar who will look to box. Need to tape them both a little more but I think I’m putting $100 on that.
 
EvoIXDan said:
Anyone else taking Ige vs Kattar over 2.5 rounds at -140?

besides picking Kattar outright I think this is close to a lock. If Ige survived Barbosas onslaught at the beginning of their fight, I think he can survive 2.5 with Kattar who will look to box. Need to tape them both a little more but I think I’m putting $100 on that.
Click to expand...
Yep, think it's by far the best play of that fight.

7/15/2020 10:30 PM MMA Props Fighting 1057 Ige / Kattar starts round 4* -120 vs Fight won’t start round 4
Risking $150.00 To Win $125.00
 
Kamais_Ookin said:
Only thing I can think of is wrestling as I don't know personally how good Kattar's tdd is. Just see Ige getting lit up on the feet though.
Click to expand...

We havent seen Kattar wrestle a lot, but based on some snippets in his fights against Zabit, Fishgold and Lamas, he seems to have pretty decent tdd and scrambling ability.
 
DonQ94 said:
We havent seen Kattar wrestle a lot, but based on some snippets in his fights against Zabit, Fishgold and Lamas, he seems to have pretty decent tdd and scrambling ability.
Click to expand...

i believe kattar has a high school wrestling background, looks solid to me.
 
My favorite play so far is a parlay of:

Jared Gordon -145
Dan Ige/Calvin Kattar Over 2½ -150
Jimmie Rivera -135

What do you guys think?
 
ctelooming said:
Yes. Kattar starts off slow and this is a 5 rounder so I'm sure he will pace himself even more. Ige is not finishing Kattar, much less in the first 2.5 rounds. Smart pick and I'll be adding it to a parlay or two.
Click to expand...

Kattar is a "slow starter" after knocking out Lamas and Fishgold in round 1, and then finishing Stephens halfway in round 2? And we're expecting the same Ige who was repeatedly brutalized and hurt by Barbosa's hands for the first 2 rounds to somehow survive against Kattar's with any regularity?

Betting that Kattar-Ige goes over 2.5 rounds or starts round 4 is poor at evens, nevermind any minus numbers.
 
Broe. said:
I dont like the over in the kattar fight at - odds. Kattar has showed he can KO good opposition in the early rounds (Stephens, Lamas, Burgos). I would need at least + money to play the over 2.5 here.
Click to expand...

Ige hasn’t been finished once in his 16 pro fights. Kattar finished Stephens at 2:42 of round 2 who got finished in round 1 by Aldo not too long before that fight.

I think Ige is just more durable and will be able to stick around until the 3rd. Kattar might be hesitant since Ige has power in his hands. I don’t love -140 for the over 2.5 but I’m confident on it.
 
Initially I didn't hate the o2.5 or o3.0 for Kattar/Ige, but honestly after rewatching Ige get nearly finished (maybe a slight exaggeration, but definitely hurt pretty badly) by Edson, I think it's a pass. Honestly, that fight was pretty recently and now he's coming back against a sharp striker with a lot of power. Kattar ending it early would not surprise me at all.
 
Crimp_Keeper said:
Ige hasn’t been finished once in his 16 pro fights. Kattar finished Stephens at 2:42 of round 2 who got finished in round 1 by Aldo not too long before that fight.

I think Ige is just more durable and will be able to stick around until the 3rd. Kattar might be hesitant since Ige has power in his hands. I don’t love -140 for the over 2.5 but I’m confident on it.
Click to expand...

Stephens, one of the most legendarily tough, durable fighters in MMA history, who has been stopped 3 times by knockout in almost 50 fights across 15 years despite facing a litany of big strikers and massively larger opponents is way less durable than Ige, who was nearly killed by Barboza a fight ago and was being badly hurt and battered by freaking Jordan Griffin of all people.

Even if Ige survives 2.5 agonizing rounds against Kattar (which is possible, just not likely), logic like this is going to lead to anti-value.

Incidentally, you know who else was never knocked out before facing Kattar? Chris Fishgold. While I consider Ige the better overall fighter, I rate Fishgold's defense as better.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,238,575
Messages
55,571,555
Members
174,824
Latest member
obrad

Share this page

Back
Top