UFC 258: Usman vs Burns

[Deleted member 316645]

Pulling the trigger on Heinisch dec, Kelvin looks worse than usual.

He's usually thick, but he's just straight up fat now and looks drained barely making 186.

Heinisch looks to be in great shape. If Kelvin wins, I wont be shocked at all, but he just does not look motivated at all to me.

 

[Wiktoruspro]

Hernandez is also a BJJ guy based on wiki capping his record. It will certainly be a test of just how good Rodolfo is. It could be a case of the BJJ cancelling out if Hernandez can stall defensively. Pumped to watch it but not sure how to bet it.

Oskar Piechota is maybe a bum in the ufc but his bjj is really good.
For sure better than fluffys and Rodolfo submited him

 

[Sono07]

Green vs Miller might be off. Bobby was the last to weigh in and Dana said he collapsed backstage.

 

[The Eagle]

Gosh Usman so much bigger than Burns.

Also Kelvin is done. 4th loss coming and departure to Bellator. Dude trains at his garage with his girlfriend. You have to be insane to bet on him at those odds.

 

[Captain Chesapeake]

Heinisch rd 1 ko always has value

 

[HockeyBjj]

Bobby Green weighed in with only 15 minutes left and collapsed backstage

If that fight is still on, Jim Miller round 1 sub is +1300 on my book. Threw some more lunch money there.

 

[Card]

 

[Danis_champ]

I came in here just to see Card's weigh in photos.

 

[Kamais_Ookin]

Green vs Miller might be off. Bobby was the last to weigh in and Dana said he collapsed backstage.

God damnit.

 

[Kazda1]

Yall. Rowe is huge compared to green. Like laughable.

 

[Sono07]

Yall. Rowe is huge compared to green. Like laughable.

Gabe wearing sandals doesn't help but yeah Rowe is huge. If Green can't close the distance I could see him getting out struck or finished late. I still think he can close the distance and possibly get his own finish.

 

[Deleted member 316645]

Green/Miller officially off.

I was all over Miller rd1, oh well. Could be for the best.

 

[BigSteve]

Damn I was big on Green, Green Ko and the under. Mostly relying on Green getting inside and clipping him, maybe even late because his cardio and pressure dosent stop.

But that's a huge size difference.. looks like he will be punching upwards. He loves his uppercuts and hooks around the guard. Might have to re evaluate all my plays

 

[WolfgangKennelz]

Damn I was big on Green, Green Ko and the under. Mostly relying on Green getting inside and clipping him, maybe even late because his cardio and pressure dosent stop.

But that's a huge size difference.. looks like he will be punching upwards. He loves his uppercuts and hooks around the guard. Might have to re evaluate all my plays

I'm not too worried. I'm gona add more to my under 2.5 as maybe Rowe can KO him. But I think Green is well equipped to close the distance. Don't be surprised to see him snap out that high kick and still catch Rowe off guard. Rowe fights to not get hit , regardless of height and reach. He will get hit

 

[BigSteve]

I'm not too worried. I'm gona add more to my under 2.5 as maybe Rowe can KO him. But I think Green is well equipped to close the distance. Don't be surprised to see him snap out that high kick and still catch Rowe off guard. Rowe fights to not get hit , regardless of height and reach. He will get hit

Snap out the high kick all the way up too 6'4 or whatever it is haha. He snapped it up against D Rod but he was two inches shorter and it had zero pop hittng him with his foot. Look I hope you are right, after re taping I still have no clear answers. That usually means I should pass from previous experiences.

 

[Kamais_Ookin]

Snap out the high kick all the way up too 6'4 or whatever it is haha. He snapped it up against D Rod but he was two inches shorter and it had zero pop hittng him with his foot. Look I hope you are right, after re taping I still have no clear answers. That usually means I should pass from previous experiences.

Havn't seen rowe fight in 1.5 years, for all we know he's made a lot of improvements and shits on green who is no world beater by any means. With the physical attributes rowe has he doesn't need to level up a ton to win. Ez pass.

 

[BigSteve]

Havn't seen rowe fight in 1.5 years, for all we know he's made a lot of improvements and shits on green who is no world beater by any means. With the physical attributes rowe has he doesn't need to level up a ton to win. Ez pass.

If Rowe wins I see him finishing Greene against cage like his other two loses by ko. Identical to Rowe's win as well on contender. Might chuck my bonus bets on it to hedge and prevent a big loss

 

[carolinagrapple]

I like the 2.5+ subs at +125 for the card..

 

[BaruchSpinoza]

Hernandez is also a BJJ guy based on wiki capping his record. It will certainly be a test of just how good Rodolfo is. It could be a case of the BJJ cancelling out if Hernandez can stall defensively. Pumped to watch it but not sure how to bet it.

I think hernandez being a ”bjj-Guy” counts against him here. Because he usually wants the fight to hit the ground he doesn’t seem to have developed tools to keep the fight standing (like a basic understanding of distance). If rodolfo gets him down he almost certainly won’t be getting up.

 

[mkess101]

Man I really don't have super strong leans for the most part given where lines are.

I think Burns is a live dog but wouldn't be over the moon to play him +200ish.

I think Grasso busts Barber up with slicker boxing.

Kelvin may be done, kinda like Heinisch even though I don't consider him anything special.

Simon **should** handle Boom but betting against Kelleher as a big dog seems dumb. He could do what Faber did to Simon... paying huge juice on Simon, nah.

Coconut Bombz is average but can crack, Marquez needs to get it to the mat imo or he's playing with fire.

Viera gets another sub.

Belal wins a decision most likely. Shocker.

Viana can sub Martin imo if Martin gets too aggressive. Otherwise I see Martin winning a decision.

IDK with Ewell/ Gutierrez, no opinion.

Same with Rowe/Green, I can't even remember seeing Rowe fight. I'm assuming it's been awhile since I didn't bother to check.

Maverick can handle Gillian but WMMA...