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Meat is crucial for human health, scientists have warned, as they called for an end to the “zealotry” pushing vegetarian and vegan diets.

Dozens of experts were asked to look into the science behind claims that meat eating causes disease and is harmful for the planet in a special issue of Animal Frontiers.

They warned that it is difficult to replace the nutritional content of meat, arguing that poorer communities with low meat intake often suffer from stunting, wasting and anaemia driven by a lack of vital nutrients and protein.

In recent years, there has been a widespread societal push towards plant-based diets, with schemes such as Veganuary and meat-free Mondays encouraging the public away from meat.

The major Global Burden of Diseases, Injuries and Risk Factor Study, published in The Lancet in 2020, also suggested that a diet high in red meat was responsible for 896,000 deaths worldwide, and was the fifth leading dietary risk factor.

But researchers argue that unprocessed meat delivers most of the vitamin B12 intake in human diets, plays a major role in supplying retinol, omega-3 fatty acids and minerals such as iron and zinc, as well as important compounds for metabolism, such as taurine and creatine.

‘Fatally scientifically flawed’
In one paper published in the issue, experts found no good evidence to support red meat being dangerous below intakes of 75g per day, and argued that the link between red meat and disease vanished when part of a healthy diet, suggesting it was the rest of the diet that was fuelling health problems.

Dr Alice Stanton, of the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, one of the authors of the review, said: “The peer-reviewed evidence published reaffirms that [the 2019 Global Burden of Disease Risk Factors Report] which claimed that consumption of even tiny amounts of red meat harms health is fatally scientifically flawed.

“In fact, removing fresh meat and dairy from diets would harm human health. Women, children, the elderly and low income would be particularly negatively impacted.”

The NHS also advises that red meat – such as beef, lamb and pork – is a good source of protein, vitamins and minerals and can form part of a balanced diet, although it warns that eating more than 90g per day can raise the risk of bowel cancer.

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The new edition includes a declaration signed by nearly 1,000 scientists across the globe arguing that livestock farming was too important to society to “become the victim of zealotry”.

The Dublin Declaration includes signatories from the universities of Cambridge, Edinburgh, Bristol, Belfast, Newcastle, Nottingham, Surrey as well as several scientists from Britain’s world-leading agricultural and farming university Harper Adams.

“Livestock-derived foods provide a variety of essential nutrients and other health-promoting compounds, many of which are lacking in diets even among those populations with higher incomes,” the declaration states.

“Well-resourced individuals may be able to achieve adequate diets while heavily restricting meat, dairy and eggs. However, this approach should not be recommended for general populations.”

The researchers warned that those who need to eat animal products included young children, adolescents, pregnant and lactating women, women of reproductive age, older adults and the chronically ill.

‘One-size-fits-all agendas’
Dr Wilhelm Windisch, a farming nutrition expert at the Technical University of Munich, said: “Farmed and herded animals maintain a circular flow of materials in agriculture by using and upcycling large amounts of materials humans cannot eat, turning them into high-quality nutrient dense food.

“One-size-fits-all agendas, such as the drastic reductions of livestock numbers could incur environmental and nutritional consequences on a massive scale.”

The intervention was welcomed by the National Farmers Union (NFU) who were this week promoting Great British Beef Week.

Richard Findlay, the NFU livestock board chair, said: “This peer-reviewed research confirms what we’ve always known – that red meat is a quality, nutritious protein that plays a critical role in a healthy, sustainable balanced diet.

“During Great British Beef Week this week, we can celebrate the sustainability of British beef and the environmental benefits our grazing herds deliver.”

The Global Burden of Diseases team had not responded at the time of publication.
 
Hopper talks about veganism and is currently the worlds strongest man. He's not pure vegan but believes in eating more vegetables.



It's always hilarious when these Vegan "Influencers" are caught eating animals.... lol

How many women have wrecked their bodies going vegan. Horror stories of hormones going crazy and losing menstrul cycles.

The Weird World of Vegan YouTube Stars Is Imploding
https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan... a former adherent,eating raw eggs and salmon.

Not shocked you believe it...

 
Vegetarianism is where it's at. Not sure if this belongs in war room either way.

I think it's pertinent to discussing here. not saying we all need to be vegetarians or vegans, but Americans do consume an inordinate amount of meat, which contributes to environmental destruction, drastically increases our "water footprint, green house gasses etc.
 
I think it's pertinent to discussing here. not saying we all need to be vegetarians or vegans, but Americans do consume an inordinate amount of meat, which contributes to environmental destruction, drastically increases our "water footprint, green house gasses etc.
Yeah it's the excessive eating of meat. I beleive the areas of the world that have the highest longevity tend to eat a lot less meat and much more vegetables, fruit, beans, fresh foods etc. I believe they call them blue zones.
 
Something we see played out everywhere in society is the chasm between people who blindly follow authority / the establishment and those who engage in individual critical thinking and analysis, often leading to conclusions that are contrary to the narratives promulgated by the powerful.

The contingent of curated “experts” paraded on TV is reminiscent of the priestly orders of the medieval ages. The peasants were told they lacked the proper education and intelligence to interpret the holy texts, and they should instead blindly obey the instructions of those who exercised authority within the church. Now we have cherry-picked experts who interpret studies the average person incorrectly perceives as incomprehensible and out of their reach of understanding.

There’s also a deranged portion of the population who revels in their own submissiveness and ignorance, who drink every word from these experts’ mouths. In fact it makes them angry to see people placing the statements made by people in positions of authority under scrutiny, as though they feel threatened that some of the core illusions they’ve made a part of their belief system will crumble. “Why can’t everyone quietly obey?” Going from being lazy and making fallacious arguments to authority to educating yourself and performing independent analysis of the world around you are a necessary step to a person’s evolution in my opinion. People who blindly obey are stuck in a lower level of functioning in terms of their character development. In fact some of the worst offenders of this behaviour are people that have decently high IQs on paper but instead lose themselves within the intricacies of the dominant narratives and lack the open-mindedness and curiosity that true science requires. At best they can understand or perform paradigm science and no more.
 
fu*k off commie with your tofu propaganda.
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Hopper talks about veganism and is currently the worlds strongest man. He's not pure vegan but believes in eating more vegetables.


He’s definitely not the worlds strongest man. Why would you think that?

I also tend to think he’s right; that a mostly vegetarian diet with some meat is the way to go for good health and longevity. However, that dude is clearly in PEDs so don’t think for a second that people are going to replicate his physique with his diet
 
Yeah it's the excessive eating of meat. I beleive the areas of the world that have the highest longevity tend to eat a lot less meat and much more vegetables, fruit, beans, fresh foods etc. I believe they call them blue zones.
I think it’s actually seafood diets?
 

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