Opinion A mental health crisis?

[LeonardoBjj]

- Every time there's a gunfire massacre or a violent spread. People point the lack of investiment in their country. The thing is: I dont think this is only on the country of the people comenting.

I see the same thing here in Brazil. Guy with katana killing children, atacking schools. Bet on violent games, like putting a cat in a micro-wave. Humans always have been violent trought or history. Maybe is the bigger number of people on this planet, make the numbers increase?
Better reporting? Or we are really getting worse?

Please read the paragraphs bellow:

To make matters worse, in the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, rates of common conditions such as depression and anxiety, went up by more than 25 per cent, the UN health agency (WHO) said on Friday.

In its largest review of mental health since the turn of the century, the World Health Organization has urged more countries to get to grips with worsening conditions.

“Everyone’s life touches someone with a mental health condition,” said WHO Director-General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. “Good mental health translates to good physical health and this new report makes a compelling case for change.

“The inextricable links between mental health and public health, human rights and socioeconomic development mean that transforming policy and practice in mental health can deliver real, substantive benefits for individuals, communities and countries everywhere. Investment into mental health is an investment into a better life and future for all.”

Even before COVID-19 hit, only a small fraction of people in need of help had access to effective, affordable and quality mental health treatment, WHO said, citing latest available global data from 2019.

For example, more than 70 per cent of those suffering from psychosis worldwide, do not get the help they need, the UN agency said.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1120682

• The World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that globally 1 out of every 4 people will be impacted by poor mental health or mental illness at some point in their lives.
• 350 million people worldwide suffer from depression.
• According to the WHO, each year an estimated 800,000 people take their own lives – almost twice the number of people killed by malaria.
• Suicide is the second highest cause of death among 15 to 29-year-olds. Percentages are especially high among girls and young women.
• Almost 9 out of 10 people with a mental condition experience stigma and discrimination.
• In high-income countries, 5 out of 10 people that require MHPSS cannot access the care they need. In low- and middle-income countries, this number rises to 9 out of 10 people.

Economic costs of mental health issues

• In total, poor mental health costs the world economy an estimated USD 2.5 trillion a year in reduced economic productivity and physical ill-health. This will rise to USD 6 trillion by 2030, alongside social costs and the contribution to poverty, homelessness and crime.
• According to the World Economic Forum, mental illness will account for more than half of the economic burden of disease over the next two decades – more than cancer, diabetes and chronic respiratory diseases combined.
• 54% of the economic burden of disease falls to low- and middle-income countries.
• Investing in MHPSS also brings economic returns. The World Bank estimates that for every dollar invested in treating mental conditions, there is a return of between USD 3.3 and USD 5.7 dollars in economic and social benefits.

MHPSS spending

• Spending on mental healthcare continues to be low compared to total healthcare spending. In 2015, for example, a total of USD 36 billion was spent on healthcare. Only USD 110 million of this – 0.3% – was spent on mental health.
• Low-income countries spend around USD 0.02 per person on mental healthcare. This should be a minimum of USD 3 to USD 4.
• The world’s most important mental healthcare donors are the US, the UK, Germany, France, Canada and Australia.
• In 2000-2015, charities accounted for around 30% of all development spending on mental healthcare.

https://www.government.nl/topics/mh...-situations/mhpss-worldwide-facts-and-figures

The lack of proper care. Or social ostracisaton, does makes people act violent?
I dont know. In the end people only need a excuse to act violent anyway. Their team won a cup?
Go burn some cars and a block of the city.

What's is my fellow sher-bros and sher-sisters opinion?

 

[Cariñito]

Mental health my ass.
People are just pussies.

 

[Lubaolong]

Severe psychiatric illness is involved in around 5% of mass shootings. Not sure why people always think bad behavior = mental illness.

 

[AZ103]

Severe psychiatric illness is involved in around 5% of mass shootings. Not sure why people always think bad behavior = mental illness.

Well psychiatry is an absolute pseudo science with garbage non scientific means of diagnosing so excuse us while we ignore the fuck out of it and you.

 

[Crawler89]

I'm on some of the meds that the shooters end up being on.

Never wanted too or tried to hurt anyone but myself

 

[Lubaolong]

Well psychiatry is an absolute pseudo science with garbage non scientific means of diagnosing so excuse us while we ignore the fuck out of it and you.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Well psychiatry is an absolute pseudo science with garbage non scientific means of diagnosing so excuse us while we ignore the fuck out of it and you.

Someone with schizophrenia for example is far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than the perpetrator statistically IIRC

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Well psychiatry is an absolute pseudo science

 

[deadshot138]

Someone with schizophrenia for example is far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than the perpetrator statistically IIRC

Yep. Their delusions make them vulnerable.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

“Mental health” seems to be a catch-all excuse for people who want to maintain easy access to guns. Calling people mentally ill helps to retain the status quo and allow the killing the continue.

Then again, if you want to go do a mass shooting, aren’t you by definition “mentally ill” in some way? It’s sort of a poorly defined term that seems to encompass everything from mild depression to homicidal rage

 

[Renard]

The real talk about mental health is that society focusses entirely on the individual responsibility of the people suffering from a mental health challenge, while completely ignoring the toxic expectations and elements within society that created the mental health issue in the first place. The only solutions offered en masse are superficial solutions like antidepressants and anxiolytics. There's kind of an implicit message there: "We refuse to change anything about the conditions that made you anxious or depressed. You're the problem." Most people unconsciously integrate that message without questioning it. Only a handful of disorders like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder more strictly require medication to function properly. There are a lot of mental health issues in American society because it's a dog-eat-dog society where everyone is placed on an endless work treadmill trying to keep their heads above water. It's inevitable that the weakest among us will fall off, become homeless and essentially get taken out of from mainstream society. It's a very different attitude from say the French or the Italians where la dolce vita is priority #1, and work comes at priority #3 or #4.

The WHO is a great example of what I laid out above. They publicly encouraged the confinement of healthy people with no evidence and no historical data to back it up, social distancing and mass wearing of masks despite all prior studies showing no efficacy for such an intervention. They basically encouraged conditions of great social isolation and stress, especially for young people and the most vulnerable of society. Now they "decry" the mental health crisis they helped create. I can guarantee you they're looking at the problem from the perspective of "Hey, that's 70% untapped market for our buddies' pharmaceutical products. I wonder if we can get some suckers (taxpayers) to pay for our profits by appealing to their emotions." They're not interested in improving people's mental health in any meaningful way. These organizations have been subverted a long time ago, and that becomes obvious when you look beyond the thin veneer of platitudes they put out to the public and examine their actual actions.

 

[Belaya Smert]

It’s easier to state that we have a societal erosion and a quality of life issue driving crime. It’s not like the government wants to fix something that elicits a fear response so they can sell you on government and its legislative arm being able to regulate your personal safety through law.

 

[cincymma79]

Severe psychiatric illness is involved in around 5% of mass shootings. Not sure why people always think bad behavior = mental illness.

Found this but which subset you pick for what can flip these number around a bit. Stuck with high level and not just schools:

On a broader scale, only 23% of all mass shooters in the U.S. were taking psychiatric medication before their attacks, according to a Voice of America article based on the database.

not worth digging a lot deeper than that really. It’s enough to show at least a correlation. The remaining 3/4 may just be unmedicated/diagnosed. That would be extreme but not impossible

 

[$uperman]

I think that the WHO and WEF played an important part in the Corona lockdowns.

The Corona lockdowns was bad for mental health of the population.

So, it is weird that they pretend to care about mental health.

 

[Renard]

An interesting but lesser known historical tidbit is that the work group which was responsible for writing the DSM (the diagnostic manual for psychiatric disorders, now version 5) was put together by the WHO and the American Psychiatric Association. The first iteration of the DSM-5 received a massive amount of criticism because it attempted to medicalize (i.e. prescribe pills for) almost every single mental health issue and over-diagnosed normal conditions as being pathological. The influence of the pharmaceutical industry in the revision was blatant, with 18 out of 27 members of the task force having ties to the pharmaceutical industry. They had to tone it down in the subsequent updates - not because they wanted to. This demonstrates two aspects that I think a lot of normie people don't understand: 1. What's medicalized or not is mostly a matter of social construct, highly influenced by industry corruption, and 2. our friends at the WHO are ultimately who's behind the pandemic of mass prescription of psychiatric medication.

 

[Damien Karras]

Well psychiatry is an absolute pseudo science with garbage non scientific means of diagnosing so excuse us while we ignore the fuck out of it and you.

 

[Lubaolong]

Found this but which subset you pick for what can flip these number around a bit. Stuck with high level and not just schools:

On a broader scale, only 23% of all mass shooters in the U.S. were taking psychiatric medication before their attacks, according to a Voice of America article based on the database.

not worth digging a lot deeper than that really. It’s enough to show at least a correlation. The remaining 3/4 may just be unmedicated/diagnosed. That would be extreme but not impossible

Incidental. A large number of people take antidepressants. 25% of elderly ladies are on antidepressants. It’s not a significant risk factor for violence. You don’t shoot up a school because you have anxiety. There are other risk factors much worthier of attention.

 

[Misanthropist]

Suicide is the second highest cause of death among 15 to 29-year-olds.

I bet it’s because since 90s, schools and mums have been telling kids you’re special and you can be whatever you want.

 

[cincymma79]

Incidental. A large number of people take antidepressants. 25% of elderly ladies are on antidepressants. It’s not a significant risk factor for violence. You don’t shoot up a school because you have anxiety. There are other risk factors much worthier of attention.

I think if you combine this with the floated theory that most mental illness is undiagnosed you can get somewhere. I think we should probably give it some thought. I wouldn’t dismiss it so easily. Not sure how you’d designs a proper study though

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I think if you combine this with the floated theory that most mental illness is undiagnosed you can get somewhere. I think we should probably give it some thought. I wouldn’t dismiss it so easily. Not sure how you’d designs a proper study though

It's probably more due to lack of investment and lazily diagnosing everything as depression and anxiety.