Economy Target loses $9 billion in a week over boycott due to LBGT pride clothing for children

calavera2 said:
It's a solid strategy and it works...maybe embracing the tranny agenda is a bad idea?
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What works? Being a hateful idiot while you hand the country over to republicans who literally despise the working class?
 
Starck said:
This is the worst kind of thread title. Stock prices are always going up and down in the short term.
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Not wrong...but this is coming off the heels of the Bud Light controversy which has become an actual real problem for Inbev and its shareholders.

I agree, we don't know if this is just a blip for Target or a real issue but this could also be the "perception becomes reality" scenario. People hear there's a Target boycott over this stuff, dump shares or short the stock...and what was a minor revenue dip turns into a major problem.
 
skold said:
What works? Being a hateful idiot while you hand the country over to republicans who literally despise the working class?
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don't be dense you know it works because the in your face tyranny shit is disturbing...
 
chardog said:
Because the alternative is Walmart taking over….. good forbid no, I’ll stick with the woke company
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Is one really that much better than the other? I can buy the same item at Walmart for quite a bit less than Target. Sometimes Target might have a different selection of items, but not so often we go to Target on purpose.
 
spamking said:
Is one really that much better than the other? I can buy the same item at Walmart for quite a bit less than Target. Sometimes Target might have a different selection of items, but not so often we go to Target on purpose.
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Store is greatly overrated
 
spamking said:
So let their parents, grandparents, aunts/uncles and cousins help them figure that out.
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most parents, grandparents , uncles and cousins wouldn't touch that topic with a 10 foot pole, plus they aren't as well trained on teaching it properly as professional teachers.
 
Of the recent scandals, I think this one is the most obviously egregious because it involves selling clothing to babies, toddlers and children that implies or outright identifies the wearer of the clothing as being queer. All happening within the context of a culture that's increasingly pushing a rhetoric of gender confusion to children in the public school system and banalizes the medicalization of children with puberty blockers, eventually leading to surgical procedures and life-long treatment with drugs that impact hormones - drugs which were designed for other health problems (e.g. prostate cancer), prescribed off-label, with a slew of dangerous side-effects.

Puberty blockers are the opposite of banal. Someone on them will not develop their secondary sexual characteristics, e.g. a male child will end up with a permanent micropenis, a female child will not develop curves or breasts, and both genders end up infertile if the treated is started early in puberty. Advocates deceptively state that the drugs put puberty on "pause." This is incorrect because a pause implies you can start it again later - you can't. There's a critical time period for sexual development and if during that entire time you're on puberty blockers, you will never develop those characteristics and become infertile. We also know that 80% of children with gender dysphoria grow out of it and mostly end up simply being gay or lesbian. In other words, you're harming 80% to maybe help 20%. Ideologues state that starting treatment early is helpful because the person 'passes' better however there's never been any studies linking passing to happiness. For example men who transition late in life who do not have any mental health co-morbidities are on average very happy despite not passing very well - it's not obvious at all that passing is correlated to happiness. Somehow we're also glossing over the mental health impact of the adult realizing they can never have children of their own because of their infertility. Puberty blockers also leads to other issues, for example this means the male adolescent never develops their penis therefore there's no penile material to perform vaginoplasty with. Many of them also develop an inability (or great difficulty) have any orgasms at all. Somehow the loss of happiness from these isn't factored in at all. I could go on and on, every minute aspect of this ideology makes no sense at all.
 
Renard said:
Of the recent scandals, I think this one is the most obviously egregious because it involves selling clothing to babies, toddlers and children that implies or outright identifies the wearer of the clothing as being queer. All happening within the context of a culture that's increasingly pushing a rhetoric of gender confusion to children in the public school system and banalizes the medicalization of children with puberty blockers, eventually leading to surgical procedures and life-long treatment with drugs that impact hormones - drugs which were designed for other health problems (e.g. prostate cancer), prescribed off-label, with a slew of dangerous side-effects.

Puberty blockers are the opposite of banal. Someone on them will not develop their secondary sexual characteristics, e.g. a male child will end up with a permanent micropenis, a female child will not develop curves or breasts, and both genders end up infertile if the treated is started early in puberty. Advocates deceptively state that the drugs put puberty on "pause." This is incorrect because a pause implies you can start it again later - you can't. There's a critical time period for sexual development and if during that entire time you're on puberty blockers, you will never develop those characteristics and become infertile. We also know that 80% of children with gender dysphoria grow out of it and mostly end up simply being gay or lesbian. In other words, you're harming 80% to maybe help 20%. Ideologues state that starting treatment early is helpful because the person 'passes' better however there's never been any studies linking passing to happiness. For example men who transition late in life who do not have any mental health co-morbidities are on average very happy despite not passing very well - it's not obvious at all that passing is correlated to happiness. Somehow we're also glossing over the mental health impact of the adult realizing they can never have children of their own because of their infertility. Puberty blockers also leads to other issues, for example this means the male adolescent never develops their penis therefore there's no penile material to perform vaginoplasty with. Many of them also develop an inability (or great difficulty) have any orgasms at all. Somehow the loss of happiness from these isn't factored in at all. I could go on and on, every minute aspect of this ideology makes no sense at all.
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No one is being forced to so much as look at the clothing rack let alone purchase closed from it. The outrage is moronic.
 
WuDi said:
Are you being genuine? The problem is sexualising and destroying children. This has become the country's main agenda and is pushed in government, schools and media nationwide.

I agree, that people should not be taking it out on abused mentally ill people. They are also a victim in this.

People should be far more aggressive, especially ones whose children have been abused and worse. The fact that a father can stand in front of a panel of teachers and try to achieve anything by calling them hypocrites is pathetic.
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You guys are losing all perspective. Main agenda? What planet is that happening?

What’s happening is any small acknowledgement of lgbtq is magnified 1000x and it becomes a rallying cry for conservatives to attack and act as if its the “main agenda”. It’s nasty stuff. Again, I have 3 kids middle school and hs age and they are almost unaware of what you call the “main agenda”.
 
Renard said:
Of the recent scandals, I think this one is the most obviously egregious because it involves selling clothing to babies, toddlers and children that implies or outright identifies the wearer of the clothing as being queer. All happening within the context of a culture that's increasingly pushing a rhetoric of gender confusion to children in the public school system and banalizes the medicalization of children with puberty blockers, eventually leading to surgical procedures and life-long treatment with drugs that impact hormones - drugs which were designed for other health problems (e.g. prostate cancer), prescribed off-label, with a slew of dangerous side-effects.

Puberty blockers are the opposite of banal. Someone on them will not develop their secondary sexual characteristics, e.g. a male child will end up with a permanent micropenis, a female child will not develop curves or breasts, and both genders end up infertile if the treated is started early in puberty. Advocates deceptively state that the drugs put puberty on "pause." This is incorrect because a pause implies you can start it again later - you can't. There's a critical time period for sexual development and if during that entire time you're on puberty blockers, you will never develop those characteristics and become infertile. We also know that 80% of children with gender dysphoria grow out of it and mostly end up simply being gay or lesbian. In other words, you're harming 80% to maybe help 20%. Ideologues state that starting treatment early is helpful because the person 'passes' better however there's never been any studies linking passing to happiness. For example men who transition late in life who do not have any mental health co-morbidities are on average very happy despite not passing very well - it's not obvious at all that passing is correlated to happiness. Somehow we're also glossing over the mental health impact of the adult realizing they can never have children of their own because of their infertility. Puberty blockers also leads to other issues, for example this means the male adolescent never develops their penis therefore there's no penile material to perform vaginoplasty with. Many of them also develop an inability (or great difficulty) have any orgasms at all. Somehow the loss of happiness from these isn't factored in at all. I could go on and on, every minute aspect of this ideology makes no sense at all.
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How does it “implies or outright identifies the wearer of the clothing as being queer.”???

And you’re making up your statistics and a lot of your critique of puberty blockers. And it’s pretty sad that most who make fun of trans individuals will try to ensure puberty blockers are unavailable and then turn around and say all trans women look like men and are scary……and yeah, that includes many who post here…..
 
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spamking said:
So let their parents, grandparents, aunts/uncles and cousins help them figure that out.
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It's useless to argue, they think everything should be pushed through public schools. It's the only point of access where they have full control over the kids.
 
SakuGoliath said:
It's useless to argue, they think everything should be pushed through public schools. It's the only point of access where they have full control over the kids.
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It’s not about pushing through public schools. It’s about not banning from public schools any acknowledgment that same sex couples and families exist. Do you want to ban any reference to family makeup or just same sex families? Can kids mention their own same sex parents at school? Can teachers mention spouses or sig others, but only if they are not same sex?

I’m not sure what you think people want pushed in school.
 
kflo said:
It’s not about pushing through public schools. It’s about not banning from public schools any acknowledgment that same sex couples and families exist. Do you want to ban any reference to family makeup or just same sex families? Can kids mention their own same sex parents at school? Can teachers mention spouses or sig others, but only if they are not same sex?

I’m not sure what you think people want pushed in school.
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Teachers just need to do their jobs. Like the rest of us have to. You're arguing a anecdotal issue to try and justify what is eventually going to be the teaching of queer theory in schools.

It's so obvious, we can see it from miles away
 
Krimzon said:
most parents, grandparents , uncles and cousins wouldn't touch that topic with a 10 foot pole, plus they aren't as well trained on teaching it properly as professional teachers.
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So your position is that “most” family members are dumb and ignorant (or otherwise not equipped to teach children about sexuality)? That’s a pretty broad brush you’re painting with… Have you considered that there are developmental stages and certain topics should be taught later in life?

Also, what training does a grade school teacher have on teaching sexuality? What is the “better” way to teach young kids about sexual topics?
 
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