Opinion Teen Mob robs Nordstrom up to 100k stolen

[badascan]

Well yeah, any country that murders for theft is a shithole by definition.

Afghanistan is the most obvious example with high crime rates despite extreme punishments, but don't be fooled by Saudi Arabia either - petty theft is a problem there too.

Extreme measures are rarely an effective deterrent.

The world is full of gamblers, let's face it.

So we let it happen as civil people? We accept that certain groups are entitled and immune to societal consequences?

 

[Damien Karras]

Bro….

Wrong thread I know. Hopefully a mod will delete it

 

[Siver!]

Beatings work great in singapore. Less than 10% the theft rate of the usa.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/628515/theft-and-related-crime-rates-in-singapore/#:~:text=In 2021, the number of,a overall low crime rate.

Singapore is an extremely unusual place, both currently and historically.

It's basically a military base-cum-tax haven.

 

[Siver!]

So we let it happen as civil people? We accept that certain groups are entitled and immune to societal consequences?

No, we just accept that things can be done without reaching for a quick fix.

When did a quick fix ever work, anywhere in the world?

 

[Oeshon]

Beatings work great in singapore. Less than 10% the theft rate of the usa.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/628515/theft-and-related-crime-rates-in-singapore/#:~:text=In 2021, the number of,a overall low crime rate.

It's not about the rules, it's who has to follow them.

This is exclusively an explosive problem. Ain't no mass looting in Asia, specially during moments of crisis, even with significantly worse economics and poverty.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Transfer out 'beating' for some other kind of deterrent and I'm with you.

Nobody should be tolerating this kind of behaviour.

It's antisocial in the extreme, quite clearly.

What always worries me with politics is the portion of people that don't even want to work with those communities that commit high crime - but you ain't coming close to solving it without doing so.

There's a balance to everything, and 'hard stick' hasn't ever worked outside of slavery.

And even then, slavery failed.

How bout a compromise ...ask em real nice to cease and desist and to leave ....and if they don't beat em with a stick and lock them in jail

And I'm for all kinds of social programs and social spending and re working the legal system so lots of things aren't crimes ....but theft and violence and rioting should be met with extreme force and it should be known that we are a culture that will not tolerate this bullshit

And when I say we I don't mean white or republican or any shit like that I mean American.

Also this behavior has nothing to do with slavery or America's racist past or any of that. It's opportunism and knowing that our society has no standards any more. They did it cuz they know security is no longer allowed to do their job and the police can't respond in time or catch em all.

Why are we even talking about slavery right now ?

 

[Super_Nintendo]

 

[HARRISON_3]

Different judge, hard to culture.

Lol

 

[Siver!]

How bout a compromise ...ask em real nice to cease and desist and to leave ....and if they don't beat em with a stick and lock them in jail

Pretty much riot protocol as it stands

And I'm for all kinds of social programs and social spending and re working the legal system so lots of things aren't crimes ....but theft and violence and rioting should be met with extreme force and it should be known that we are a culture that will not tolerate this bullshit

And when I say we I don't mean white or republican or any shit like that I mean American.

Also this behavior has nothing to do with slavery or America's racist past or any of that. It's opportunism and knowing that our society has no standards any more. They did it cuz they know security is no longer allowed to do their job and the police can't respond in time or catch em all.

Why are we even talking about slavery right now ?

I agree with this.

You balked at slavery, I was just using a literal example of 'the stick' and the typical circumstances required to make it work, I wasn't saying anything beyond that.

Don't sweat that.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Well yeah, any country that murders for theft is a shithole by definition.

Afghanistan is the most obvious example with high crime rates despite extreme punishments, but don't be fooled by Saudi Arabia either - petty theft is a problem there too.

Extreme measures are rarely an effective deterrent.

The world is full of gamblers, let's face it.

I don't agree with your statement. I don't think that the penalties for stealing should be death ....but if you get roughed up or killed in the commission of the robbery people should have the right to defend themselves , their property , their businesses and their livelihoods. In a civil society all the risk should be to the robber and people should not just be expected to be victimized.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Pretty much riot protocol as it stands



I agree with this.

You balked at slavery, I was just using a literal example of 'the stick' and the typical circumstances required to make it work, I wasn't saying anything beyond that.

Don't sweat that.

Word

I think I favor more of a carrots and stick approach to society. I'm all for their being avenues to escape poverty and programs to help working class people get by . I'm just also for working class people being allowed to defend their shit as well.

 

[Ornife]

Don't worry, guys. I'm sure these are just a few rare, isolated incidents. Certainly not a trend that will escalate into greater and greater acts of lawlessness.

 

[Siver!]

I don't agree with your statement. I don't think that the penalties for stealing should be death ....but if you get roughed up or killed in the commission of the robbery people should have the right to defend themselves , their property , their businesses and their livelihoods. In a civil society all the risk should be to the robber and people should not just be expected to be victimized.

The tightrope I'd walk there is if you can safely give a criminal a beating, you shouldn't be punished. But also, don't ever put yourself at risk because of a bit of stock.

Those guys in the video the other week where a guy was robbing them, cleaning the shelves, but ended up getting a bit of stick? No worries. No harm, no foul. The beating he took was 'to stop him escaping' even if it wasn't, and we should look away and not punish those guys.

But those guys could also have been shot in the face, no business is ever worth that. Protect at your own risk, unfortunately.

As a general rule, I don't care too much about 'a civil society' stopping thieves or robbers with a bit of force. It can get a little extreme in 'shithole' countries though, where people are brutalized way beyond sense, though, so free rein should never be afforded to vigilantes.

 

[koquerelle]

Not to justify the robbery.

That's not true.

 

[koquerelle]

It's ok guys! Each one of those future engineers and doctors were carrying merchandise less than $950 each!

They did it to feed their family.

 

[BIKES!]

The most racist, divisive and damaging leader in western civilization.

 

[koquerelle]

and each of those mf'ers keeps voting democrat and their communities keep rotting away.

I keep hearing that, but I doubt voting is high on their priority list. You might be right. I just don't see it.

 

[badascan]

No, we just accept that things can be done without reaching for a quick fix.

When did a quick fix ever work, anywhere in the world?

Things aren't being done, in fact the opposite is happening. My solution as the dictator isn't a quick fix, it's an aggressive move to make an example out of scum and to let potential scum know it will not be tolerated. My society is expected to be civil so I as the dictator will make the difficult choices leaving the good people to remain civil...

When a culture of crime becomes acceptable within groups of a society we've lost the plot and it's time to make hard choices otherwise we lose control as decent people...

I don't know about other countries and their handling of their criminals but it doesn't matter because we aren't them...

 

[djacobox372]

I remember the days when you'd get YEARS in prison for stealing 100k.

 

[Bia]

Looting is the voice of the unheard.

looting is the action of the social scumbags