International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. V

[Scerpi]

With each passing day, more and more of Israel's lies are being exposed.

lol... No they're not

 

[The XL]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

 

[kflo]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

because the other side has hamas?

 

[syct23]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

It’s easy,

Just don’t think about all of the bad things they’ve done…

 

[djacobox372]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

There's lots to be critical about Israel, but the PA, Hamas, and their supporters in the Arab world are a 100 times worse.

 

[Rematch]

2 things. Remember their old show ? Whyd they end up leaving and starting a new one(that's rhetorical by the way i know and suspect you do too)? And Krystal has damn near become the mouthpiece for hamas in America at this point and the second I even see the logo I know this is no longer a legitimate news source. It's sad really.

What does any of that have to do with Spox's statements?

 

[Rematch]

There's lots to be critical about Israel, but the PA, Hamas, and their supporters in the Arab world are a 100 times worse.

100 times worse with far fewer bodies?

 

[Rematch]

baby beheadings was walked back a long time ago.

here's a bbc article on rape (from today):

Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears

The BBC has seen and heard evidence that Hamas fighters committed horrific sexual violence in Israel.

www.bbc.com

but hey, believe what you want to believe and paint the picture you think reflects hamas on 10/7.

i think you should think about making statements like "With each passing day, more and more of Israel's lies are being exposed." in context of this conflict. if you want to go to the mat on "hamas didn't rape anyone on 10/7, israel is lying" you should do so with great confidence in your position. it's a pretty gross thing to get wrong.......

Provide evidence then.

 

[Strychnine]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

Because the other side wants to slaughter every Jew in Israel and everyone else on the planet that's not part of their sect?

 

[kflo]

Provide evidence then.

dude. i linked to the bbc article. are you saying you don't believe the article and believe hamas is innocent of those allegations and israel clearly lied????? is that the position you're taking?

 

[djacobox372]

100 times worse with far fewer bodies?

Yep, it's not their fault that they're winners.

Hamas and the PA isn't letting Israeli's live out of the goodness of their heart. If they had Israel's military force there would be milions of dead Israelis.

It's like comparing the US to Imperial Japan.. the US killed millions of Japanese, while only losing about 100k Americans. This doesn't mean that the US was more evil than Japan, it was just more capable. Japan would have wiped the US off the map if it could have.

When the actual numbers come out about how many civilians were killed in gaza, it will still be tragic, but not even close to what Hamas is claiming.

 

[HereticBD]

100 times worse with far fewer bodies?

It's all on Hamas. All they gotta do is surrender and release the hostages. Funny how you guys never talk about that or consider that an option, but yet demand Israel lay down their arms and run away, because they're winning too much.

Hamas can end this right now. It's not Israel's responsibility to surrender. They're winning.

 

[Tatra]

you really just can't handle anyone being opposed to your psychotic genocidal world view, can you? You only betray how dishonest you are more and more. Don't engage in the substance. Don't engage with any one of the numerous arguments I've articulated. Just keep hitting your one line responses to my detailed posts while posturing. That's all you have to do. Posture, posture, posture. Don't argue. Don't be coherent. Don't back up any of your points with expert opinion or historical analysis. Just keep posturing. Posture, posture some more, keep posturing, and one day, you will be right.

!!!Right wingers!!!

I have a challenge for you -

Make an argument that is longer than one sentence.

Difficulty: impossible

When you don't actually believe in anything, and have no values beyond opposing the left, it becomes really really really hard to make passionate and detailed responses against your opposition. Just keep spamming one sentence arguments and you will be right.

Remember - logic, facts, coherency, are all irrelevant. What is important is that you POSTURE, as if you are right. As long as you maintain your posturing, you cannot lose. It doesn't matter how wrong you are. It doesn't matter that all of objective reality is screaming that you're wrong. You're posturing, and that means you're actually right.

 

[Rematch]

dude. i linked to the bbc article. are you saying you don't believe the article and believe hamas is innocent of those allegations and israel clearly lied????? is that the position you're taking?

The article is about what BBC "heard", not evidence.

 

[Rematch]

It's all on Hamas. All they gotta do is surrender and release the hostages. Funny how you guys never talk about that or consider that an option, but yet demand Israel lay down their arms and run away, because they're winning too much.

Hamas can end this right now. It's not Israel's responsibility to surrender. They're winning.

It's all on Hamas that Israel decides to indiscriminately murder innocent women and children?

 

[SammyPops]

I can't understand how anyone could support Israel and see them as good guys

be prepared for the "but hamas" and "you are an idito" responses.

I'd add there are clearly no good guys here, except the Palestian cvivilians.

 

[SammyPops]

100 times worse with far fewer bodies?

You fail to understand. They do not care about Palestinian civilians.

 

[Rematch]

Yep, it's not their fault that they're winners.

Hamas and the PA isn't letting Israeli's live out of the goodness of their heart. If they had Israel's military force there would be milions of dead Israelis.

It's like comparing the US to Imperial Japan.. the US killed millions of Japanese, while only losing about 100k Americans. This doesn't mean that the US was more evil than Japan, it was just more capable. Japan would have wiped the US off the map if it could have.

When the actual numbers come out about how many civilians were killed in gaza, it will still be tragic, but not even close to what Hamas is claiming.

You'd have a point if the vast majority of people killed by Israel was Hamas. However, the vast majority of deaths have men civilians that Israel has chosen to kill to eliminate a handful of Hamas.

 

[Rematch]

You fail to understand. They do not care about Palestinian civilians.

Apparently.

 

[SammyPops]

It's all on Hamas. All they gotta do is surrender and release the hostages. Funny how you guys never talk about that or consider that an option, but yet demand Israel lay down their arms and run away, because they're winning too much.

Hamas can end this right now. It's not Israel's responsibility to surrender. They're winning.

I generally ignore your posts now, because we will never agree, and I am trying to be vitriolic ragardless of others actions.

But I found this interesting: "they're winning".

How do you define winning?

It seems to me Israel is creating more extreamists/terrorist in Gaza and the WB every day.

It seems to me other countires such as Turkey and SA are being pushed away.

It seems to me like Israel support amongst young people in the West is damaged due to this.

If you feel the need to respond with the typical BS, just please ignore my post.