Unknown fighters that own UFC fighters?

tasticles said:
Seems odd unless there's somewhere don't know. Snipes has pretty serious training also. Was it gonna be mma or kickboxing? Some of these guys can actually fight and don't normally compete
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He mentioned MMA saying he was kickboxing in the morning and BJJ at night.
 
I mean someone with no martial arts credentials,who also choose not to fight competitivley?

Why care about something that isnt proven?

"Yo this guy,I forget his name,anyway he fought this MMA guy,who i also forget his name,and he whupped his ass EASY,but he got no desire to compete,cos he doesnt like money,and his techniques are banned from MMA. Oh why was he here then? Oh Idk. He just wanders the earth owning people at will"

 
There are those famous stories of that farmer that beat the shit out of Mark Coleman at a fair, Shane Corson beating the shit out of Big Daddy at a bar, and Stephen Quadros leaving Joe Rogan face down at a urinal. The first two are known to have happened, the third one is just a claim Quadros made before Rogan showed up on a UFC broadcast with a black eye.

Don't forget the fighters that struggled on Bully Beatdown.
 
At fight ready back in like 2010... it might have still been called Lions Den there was this Asian guy that was maybe 36 that would come in maybe once a month and roll up everyone including guys like Ben Askren Benny Madrid and Frankie Saenz.... was probably 170 lbs.... just felt like a brick ton on top...
 
Ogata said:
Pat was on Rogans podcast and he mentioned some dude who would walk in to his gym with hunting gear on. Take them off, walk in to the training area and proceed to own every UFC fighter on the floor. Then he would leave and go about his business. Dude never competed because he had no desire.


Are there lots of unknown fighters who can own famous fighters but have no desire for fame?
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I mean.. Brett Rogers came to Strikeforce after his Walmart tire shift & proceeded to knockout some big name heavyweights in MMA. Probably lots of dudes like that around the world
 
Sounds like some hearsay fan boy stuff that has grown with the telling. No doubt though there are world champions out there we'll never see for a whole bunch of reasons but I doubt these dudes are fucking up pro fighters with minimal or no training. It's just illogical.

A similar but better story was told, I believe by werdum, doing A seminar in south Eastern Europe somewhere. And this local guy who was a regional legend from fighting in the various wars and conflicts stepped up to werdum and apparently gave him the fight of his life (I believe grappling only)
As werdum related it, the guy was a literal savage.

I will try to find the source it was pretty intense
 
ryun253 said:
I mean.. Brett Rogers came to Strikeforce after his Walmart tire shift & proceeded to knockout some big name heavyweights in MMA. Probably lots of dudes like that around the world
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Well actually just one.

Damn you Andrei.


As for the topic sure probably yes but as long as it doesnt happen on tape it doesnt matter.
 
I'm sure, training is a big part of talent but there also the natural talent you are born wi
Ogata said:
I agree but its crazy that someone with insane level of talent has no desire to compete. My Taekwondo/Tang Soo Do sensei was a young dude in his early 20s. The most insane footwork I have ever seen + crazy kicking ability that he also brought from Taekkyon. But kicks aside, his footwork was out of this world. Looked like he could float on air.

One day, I was teaching him boxing techniques and dude already had that world class snap with his hands. Yet, no real desire to compete in any forms of combat sports despite footwork and freakish kicks due to flexibility, coordination and fast twitch muscles.
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As much as we all desire to be competitors ourself that dream might go out the window then second we get punched in the face.
 
sonhow said:
Well actually just one.

Damn you Andrei.


As for the topic sure probably yes but as long as it doesnt happen on tape it doesnt matter.
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Yeah, damn you Andrei! Can't believe he's still fighting now. I thought his career was over at that point lol
 
Ogata said:
I agree but its crazy that someone with insane level of talent has no desire to compete. My Taekwondo/Tang Soo Do sensei was a young dude in his early 20s. The most insane footwork I have ever seen + crazy kicking ability that he also brought from Taekkyon. But kicks aside, his footwork was out of this world. Looked like he could float on air.

One day, I was teaching him boxing techniques and dude already had that world class snap with his hands. Yet, no real desire to compete in any forms of combat sports despite footwork and freakish kicks due to flexibility, coordination and fast twitch muscles.
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You have to have a certain ambition and ego. Friend of mine is quite the talented writer and painter, never had the desire to publish anything besides impressing women with it in private. Guy is also smart and very well educated but never finished uni and is working in a kids club making coffee and cleaning the place.

At parties he has no problem impressing Harvard profs with his intriguing personality and sharp communication skills while living like a bum in a small flat with cheap wine and dirty pants.
 
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davidlemonparty said:
Sounds like some hearsay fan boy stuff that has grown with the telling. No doubt though there are world champions out there we'll never see for a whole bunch of reasons but I doubt these dudes are fucking up pro fighters with minimal or no training. It's just illogical.
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Is anyone saying they have NO training? I wasn't interpreting it that way.
davidlemonparty said:
A similar but better story was told, I believe by werdum, doing A seminar in south Eastern Europe somewhere. And this local guy who was a regional legend from fighting in the various wars and conflicts stepped up to werdum and apparently gave him the fight of his life (I believe grappling only)
As werdum related it, the guy was a literal savage.

I will try to find the source it was pretty intense
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I'd love to read that.
 
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don't ask said:
Is anyone saying they have NO training? I was interpreting it that way.


I'd love to read that.
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Yeh it's not no training, but pro fighters are in the gym like 5-10 hours a day, 5 days or more a week. A dude doing a few classes a week just doesn't compare and anyway if someone was doing as much training as a pro or even a busy amateur then they could hardly be unknown. They'd be an institution at the gym.


Re: the story, I'm trying to find it, but having no luck on mobile. I'll try harder on the computer tonight so I can cover more ground. I'm sure it was when werdum was training in Croatia with crocop (he had started a gym in Spain or Portugal or something as well) but iirc the story was on location in a different Eastern euro country
 
davidlemonparty said:
Yeh it's not no training, but pro fighters are in the gym like 5-10 hours a day, 5 days or more a week. A dude doing a few classes a week just doesn't compare and anyway if someone was doing as much training as a pro or even a busy amateur then they could hardly be unknown. They'd be an institution at the gym.
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I think they point is they'd be unknown outside the gym.
davidlemonparty said:
Re: the story, I'm trying to find it, but having no luck on mobile. I'll try harder on the computer tonight so I can cover more ground. I'm sure it was when werdum was training in Croatia with crocop (he had started a gym in Spain or Portugal or something as well) but iirc the story was on location in a different Eastern euro country
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I hope you find it. That sounds like a great story.
 
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