So Gordon Ryan is openly admitting steroid use ?

Oldguy said:
Are we really justifying cheating with the logic “everyone does it?”
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I'm not.

I'm pretty sure Nick Rodriguez, Lachlan Giles, and Mike Musumeci are clean. Decent chance the Ruotolos are too.

Gordon, Galvao, and Craig are on the sauce.
 
Quebec Nick said:
Same thing in competitive BJJ / grappling, everybody uses it, it's appaling

In a perfect world testing would be so precise that nobody will try it, but that's the world we live in
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In a perfect world for MMA the steroids would be supllied and monitors by doctors and the UFC performance institute.
It's not a sport you should do natty. Used to train at a gym with an mma program and one guys wasn't taking roids and ended up damaging his hormones the most from the weight cuts.

For BJJ you can compete at even a high levels clean, as you don't need to cut weight and getting technical is way more important than getting jacked.
 
yetanother said:
In a perfect world for MMA the steroids would be supllied and monitors by doctors and the UFC performance institute.
It's not a sport you should do natty. Used to train at a gym with an mma program and one guys wasn't taking roids and ended up damaging his hormones the most from the weight cuts.

For BJJ you can compete at even a high levels clean, as you don't need to cut weight and getting technical is way more important than getting jacked.
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IMHO, the 'perfect world' scenario would be to do away with weight cutting in MMA...not to sanction PED use as a means to mitigate the harmful effects of weight cutting.
 
MRT said:
IMHO, the 'perfect world' scenario would be to do away with weight cutting in MMA...not to sanction PED use as a means to mitigate the harmful effects of weight cutting.
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Nah, MMA is all about two dudes harming each other to entertain. Making the fights worse for a tiny bit of possible fighter safety makes no sense.
It's not a sport that's supposed to make your life better like BJJ but the judging criteria reward you for making your opponent permantently more stupid.
99% of MMA fighters absolutely love taking roids and we shouldn't ban them from doing this because of cold war propaganda.
 
mattemate said:
The speech/language pathologist and English teacher in me wants to parse his sentences and explain slowly and in a soothing voice to you why it's not an admission of guilt.

The Sherdogger in me wants to call you "a fucking retard" and move on.

And right now, the Sherdogger is winning!
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As it should brother, as it should 😂
 
MRT said:
IMHO, the 'perfect world' scenario would be to do away with weight cutting in MMA...not to sanction PED use as a means to mitigate the harmful effects of weight cutting.
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Even chatgpt 5.0 can't come with a way to end weight cutting. it's impossible in any sport with weight classes. people will always game the system. And it's normal

Only way is to monitor the weight of the fighters throughout the whole year by an independent agency like USADA. Colossal task
 
Koya said:
Even chatgpt 5.0 can't come with a way to end weight cutting. it's impossible in any sport with weight classes. people will always game the system. And it's normal

Only way is to monitor the weight of the fighters throughout the whole year by an independent agency like USADA. Colossal task
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OneFC is doing hydration tests at weigh in. I haven't dug deep into the science of it, but it seems legit. Kidney function tests based on a marker like urinary creatinine could be another (that's the marker they're testing, for all I know).
 
mattemate said:
OneFC is doing hydration tests at weigh in. I haven't dug deep into the science of it, but it seems legit. Kidney function tests based on a marker like urinary creatinine could be another (that's the marker they're testing, for all I know).
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From what I've read it's all bullshit by chatri. Like no one has ever access to those tests and there's been instances where it wasn't really clear if they had favored a fighter by overlooking it.
 
Koya said:
Only way is to monitor the weight of the fighters throughout the whole year by an independent agency like USADA. Colossal task
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For water weight cuts just testing in say two weeks before the fight it should really reduce it.
The BJJ before the match weight stop the MMA style water cutting.
 
yetanother said:
For water weight cuts just testing in say two weeks before the fight it should really reduce it.
The BJJ before the match weight stop the MMA style water cutting.
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Yeah but I think promotions don't want to take the risk of MANY cancelled fights at the last minute because of "just before the march weighs in".
 
Most promotions don't test you so unfortunately it's very common that people use peds in bjj. I hate it but there not much you can do
 
Smato_rules said:
Wait, isn’t he saying he still looks as big and good because he gained his size “real”?

And I know everyone says it but, they all juice who cares
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That’s what it sounds like to me, the opposite of an admission.
 
Idk what rock y’all are living under but there isn’t a single nogi player who isn’t juiced at that level.
 
shunyata said:
I'm not.

I'm pretty sure Nick Rodriguez, Lachlan Giles, and Mike Musumeci are clean. Decent chance the Ruotolos are too.

Gordon, Galvao, and Craig are on the sauce.
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Hard to say if any of them are clean. Sure Nicky Rod did pass a drug test and is open to getting tested. But let me remind you Lance Armstrong passed all his tests, Carl Lewis passed most his tests ironically never got caught until someone outed him.

Roger Clemens passed steroids test and was a known user. Andy Pettite passed all his tests and only got caught because he got outed and admitted it.

It is possible Nick Rod, Giles and Musumeci are juicing, I am not saying they are but I assume everyone is juicing
 
kintana said:
Hard to say if any of them are clean. Sure Nicky Rod did pass a drug test and is open to getting tested. But let me remind you Lance Armstrong passed all his tests, Carl Lewis passed most his tests ironically never got caught until someone outed him.

Roger Clemens passed steroids test and was a known user. Andy Pettite passed all his tests and only got caught because he got outed and admitted it.

It is possible Nick Rod, Giles and Musumeci are juicing, I am not saying they are but I assume everyone is juicing
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If Mickey is juicing he's on the worst stack in the world
 
Koya said:
If Mickey is juicing he's on the worst stack in the world
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Let me clarify, I do not mean just anabolic but also EPO.

I am not saying he does or even accusing him of it, I am just saying if he is using PEDs I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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