Media Joe Pyfer has harsh words for the nerds who doubt the science of him punching harder than Ngannou

[Colemanstove]

Hea always angry tho

 

[svmr_db]

What unit is it measured in again? Ah yes... "units" units.

Love physics

B. Joe Pyfer is an absolute UNIT!

 

[HuskySamoan]

The punching machine at the UFC P.I. isn't one of those carnival machines to be fair sir.

I'm not convinced, the statistics from it are so retarded.

Why do you think they can't make it consistent and reliable?

Really interesting question that I simply don't have an answer for. In boxing and martial arts you hear so many different theories on punching power and chin durability but I've never really heard anything concrete scientifically on either. Punching power I've heard is "bone density, hand size, wrist size, having big/strong legs, how your tendons and ligaments align, how muscles connect to bones" and probably a million other things. Its never felt like such a measurable thing to me.

 

[svmr_db]

We need someone like Stipe, Arlovski or Overeem to step in to take a few shots from Pyfer to compare his power to Ngannou's, for science!

 

[Banana Tree's Nemesis]

"For all those nerds out there that don't understand science.." ~ he who is Joe Pyfer

Welterweight sized guys are able to make it to the elite level in throwing sports so I’m not ready to discredit the machine based off size;

That's actually not entirely stupid since the classical formula for kinetic energy would be 1/2*mass*velocity^2 which clearly implies that the velocity is more important than the mass.
So at some level there may be a sweet spot regarding body mass regarding to acceleration ability.
There are videos out there of different people trying different things on the machine and there are fortunately two other numbers displayed. Which is at least a bit helpful.

It measures kinetic energy as a well as 'impact force'. Now here come the problems. They measure two things because these things both can influence the damage that a strike can deal to a human on impact. Nonetheless they are two different things. In that regard kicks and punches are wildly incomparable.

When you kick you're supposed to try to 'kick through' the heavybag. Kicks are pretty much always upwards, even leg kicks, while strikes are pretty much always downwards. No boxing coach of sound mind will tell you to 'punch trough' the heavy bag. Quite the opposite. You wanna learn how to snap your punches. A kick is like swinging a baseball bat at your opponent. Punching them is more like whipping with a wet towel. One relies on speed, the other on mass to generate damage.

Both Francis and Joe scored above 500J for their punches. There are videos of Wonderboy hitting the cube or Brian Shaw giving it a winded slap and they land barely above 200.
Since kinetic energy should be much more relevant to a punch, as no one would just push their punch through their opponent, the numbers of Joe and Francis are indeed relatively impressive.
That said, Francis apparently scored that on an uppercut which is working entirely against gravity and Joe just threw an overhand which utilizes gravity as much as possible.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Whats the number based on?. Those punch machines are so herky jerky and give out all sorts of bizarre readings, they are just for arcade and the fun fair, its not legit.

If a sherdogger gets a little run up to that machine and had a fair amount of weight behind him and is adult male, you could beat a lot of "pro fighters" on it. I've seen a guy who I used to work with get higher number than Lennox Lewis on that silly machine by just running up to and throwing a huge swing. then he did it a few times more and gave him a low number lol.. the thing is so herky jerky and random

The punch machine was in some arcade and it has famous peoples faces on it big stickers on the top of the machine and Lennox Lewis was at the top... and the guy I worked with took a huge swing and he beat Lewis number, I can't remember what it was, it was so long ago... anyways he was laughing like crazy and then after he punched it another 4 times and it gave random low numbers like 327 and 283, but the first time it was higher than Lennox and I can't remember what number it was, but it was over 900. Those machines are for the fun fair, leave it for the kiddies to have fun

 

[Unheralded Truth]

Oh dear, that shit was embarrassing... How do you care so much about something that no one else on this planet takes seriously?
So fucking proud to hit the high score, that he can't ride along with the obvious jokes from fans? Sorry, but it reeks of insecurity.

 

[Wetarmpits]

Yeah, like people can block a Ford Escort on their forearms and be fine.

You’re just jelly you can’t block that, bro.

 

[JustforBROCK]

Why does everyone want to talk like this now? Booo

 

[Cid]

Yeah, like people can block a Ford Escort on their forearms and be fine.

I mean, I'm pretty sure you could check a prius, but I don't know about the Ford escort...

A cold dead stare from a sherdogger and the Ford Escort will block itself.

 

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

What unit is it measured in again? Ah yes... "units" units.

Love physics

The amount of Ford Escorts per Face squared.

Ngannou has a TAPPM (Totally Accurate Punch Power Measurement) of 1.

 

[piropiro]

1) Impact devices are usually super sensitive to calibration, so if not properly set they can easily give false results.

2) Physics are against the likelihood of his result … mass x acceleration and all that … Francis has like 100 pounds of mass over him, so to compensate his acceleration should be off the charts.

3) Does he really care that much about a punching machine? GSP would have never set any punching machine records, but he set the records that matter, in the cage. Maybe he should focus more on the opponent and less on “high scores”.

 

[Brigfa2]

They are jealous of jacked white boy Pyfer

 

[Dorkman]

Nerds made that machine that rated your punching power joe. Know your place. Or teh nerds might hit you with teh jab.

 

[Stuart0502]

Has anyone actually seen the video of Ngannou breaking the record or Pyfer breaking it after that?

Interesting to see Mike Perry hit it. He starts off with a very straight/mechanical looking straight right and his score's are pretty low. By the end he's taking this right hook with a ridiculous wind up, that would be the biggest telegraph you have ever seen in a fight.

It does seem to get more power though. So without seeing Ngannou hitting hit or Pyfer breaking his record, I wouldn't know if Ngannou set his score throwing a right cross that could realistically land against a trained opponent or if Pyfer is taking this huge wind up like he's throwing a fastball or a Javelin.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Why does everyone want to talk like this now? Booo

Right? I watched this clip and immediately thought that Joe is doing his best Strickland impersonation. Either way, I still want to be him.

 

[JustforBROCK]

Right? I watched this clip and immediately thought that Joe is doing his best Strickland impersonation. Either way, I still want to be him.

Hahaha hopefully he can back it up.

 

[Question]

Why the fuck does he say "everybody wants to make this narrative about fucking oiling Dana's ass and shit" in the the middle of his ramble lol

 

[StonedLemur]

I'm not convinced, the statistics from it are so retarded.

Really interesting question that I simply don't have an answer for. In boxing and martial arts you hear so many different theories on punching power and chin durability but I've never really heard anything concrete scientifically on either. Punching power I've heard is "bone density, hand size, wrist size, having big/strong legs, how your tendons and ligaments align, how muscles connect to bones" and probably a million other things. Its never felt like such a measurable thing to me.

I didn't say the stats weren't retarded, I simply said its not a carnival machine lol

 

[Cowboy Kurt Angle]

So he hits as hard as 2 ford escorts