Boxing Granite Chin >>> MMA "granite chin"

[Tayski]

But you can get further in MMA with a weaker chin than you can in boxing. You can wrestle or be good at BJJ. In boxing it’s going to be very tough if you have a weaker chin. There’s nowhere to ‘hide’.

There is. Behind boxing gloves. And getting counted instead of savagely finished by ground and pound.

 

[Oldman1]

So the question is this...how many 'Granite chinned' MMA fighters would get KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds in there with a boxing power puncher?

The argument was Francis has never been KO'd...fighting with 4 ounce gloves, taking kicks and knees and elbows.
Yet he got slept quickly and was out for some time.




Clearly boxers generally hit a lot harder and with more accuracy, but their chins are also way tougher.

I wonder how many other supposed solid chins in MMA like Roy Nelson, Fujita, Mark Hunt, would get put to sleep relatively easily in boxing?

I have a new respect for a boxing Granite Chin.

Stupid thread. Whether you compete in MMA or boxing is no correlation with your chin.

 

[SkinnyClaw]

So the question is this...how many 'Granite chinned' MMA fighters would get KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds in there with a boxing power puncher?

The argument was Francis has never been KO'd...fighting with 4 ounce gloves, taking kicks and knees and elbows.
Yet he got slept quickly and was out for some time.




Clearly boxers generally hit a lot harder and with more accuracy, but their chins are also way tougher.

I wonder how many other supposed solid chins in MMA like Roy Nelson, Fujita, Mark Hunt, would get put to sleep relatively easily in boxing?

I have a new respect for a boxing Granite Chin.

Ngannou's never been hit anywhere near as hard in MMA though, some arm punches from Stipe 50lbs smaller than him is the hardest shots he's ever eaten.

Diaz was still eating shots from Jake Paul who is bigger and hits much harder than anyone Diaz has ever fought, so that would be an example of an 'MMA chin' carrying over to boxing, and I don't wanna hear shit about 'Jake Paul doesn't hit hard', he's dropped/KOd everyone he's fought, for what it's worth

 

[YourBoss]

It's not really a question of "chin" as I see it. AJ put his lead foot behind Francis' lead foot and put his whole body into that shot. Ngannou just stood there (probably still dazed) without reacting - no blocking, no rolling with the punch. There is no chin on god's earth could stand up to a 250 lbs former world champ power puncher hitting clean through it like that.

It's a question of skill and experience far more than "chin".

if you look at the slow motion Francis clearly sees the punch coming and is bracing for impact. Still went out cold.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

So the question is this...how many 'Granite chinned' MMA fighters would get KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds in there with a boxing power puncher?

I think the bigger question is why do you feel compelled to make multiple of these "hur hur boxing is better" threads along with other the other handful of resident boxing nerds on here instead of discussing it on the boxing section or on a dedicated boxing forum?

Another question would be if MMA is shit and full of bums why have you been posting on an MMA forum since 2002?

 

[TheGreatA]

It's ironic that Wladimir Klitschko, regarded as having a weak chin by boxing standards, proved to have a tougher chin than Ngannou.

 

[Khaiser]

Boxers hit harder and have better chins, on average.

It’s weird how this is still seen as a contentious view on here. If you were to tell someone who had never seen either sport what they involve, they would be able to infer that boxer punched harder and had better chins, simply because their sport necessitates it.

It isn’t typically a small margin either.

 

[Khaiser]

Stupid thread. Whether you compete in MMA or boxing is no correlation with your chin.

Of course there is, in the exact same way boxers will have better chins than tennis players.

One sport simply requires you to take punches to the head more regularly than the other.

You can absolutely be a success in MMA by having minor striking experience of ability. You simply cant be successful in boxing unless you can absorb blunt force trauma to the head.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

Why does it seem like so many people on this MMA Forum hate on MMA? Are you all self hating people or something? I don't get it. Also Ngannou really hadn't even been hit all that much, AJ hits super hard and caught Ngannou clean 3x. The 3rd time AJ caught an already hurt ngannou a clean as humanly possible with a shot he threw with full power. Anybody would get ko'd by that.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Why does it seem like so many people on this MMA Forum hate on MMA? Are you all self hating people or something? I don't get it. Also Ngannou really hadn't even been hit all that much, AJ hits super hard and caught Ngannou clean 3x. The 3rd time AJ caught an already hurt ngannou a clean as humanly possible with a shot he threw with full power. Anybody would get ko'd by that.

Theres about as much activity from boxing trolls in the UFC section trying to shill boxing to MMA fans as there is activity in the actual boxing section about boxing shit thats happening. Its pretty bizarre. Like somebody is gonna go "oh well fuck it then I suppose I wont watch UFC 299 now".

And its meant to be MMA that has the little brother complex......

 

[WhiteMousse]

So the question is this...how many 'Granite chinned' MMA fighters would get KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds in there with a boxing power puncher?

The argument was Francis has never been KO'd...fighting with 4 ounce gloves, taking kicks and knees and elbows.
Yet he got slept quickly and was out for some time.




Clearly boxers generally hit a lot harder and with more accuracy, but their chins are also way tougher.

I wonder how many other supposed solid chins in MMA like Roy Nelson, Fujita, Mark Hunt, would get put to sleep relatively easily in boxing?

I have a new respect for a boxing Granite Chin.

There isn't a man on the planet who would be walking after hits that hard and that clean. You don't magically evolve a thicker skull when you decide to go into boxing.

But sometimes it does appear that thicker skulls post on sherdog

 

[OldBoy91]

But you can get further in MMA with a weaker chin than you can in boxing. You can wrestle or be good at BJJ. In boxing it’s going to be very tough if you have a weaker chin. There’s nowhere to ‘hide’.

Not really true.

Amir Khan had a horrible chin and was a multiple time, multiple weight world champion in boxing.

People who are saying it's a matter of skill are correct. Boxers simply don't get hit as clean as Francis did, and nowhere near as often.

Amir Khan wouldn't suddenly look like he has a granite or even a good chin just because he's getting punched by MMA fighters. That's not how genetics work.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Roy Nelson was put to sleep in mma by another guy on your list... Mark Hunt.

But did he? Hunt never had that 1 hitter quitter KO power. You see Hunt do those walk offs but how many of them were actually knocked out and laying stiff like Jousha left Ngannou? Too many stupid MMA'ers who dont know what a real knock out is. Ngannou getting folded over is a real knock out.

 

[Yellowcrab]

No, Ngannou simply has a very bad defense in boxing : it worked very well against the pillow fisted Fury, it didn't work against the hard puncher Joshua.

Also, Ngannou's chin is USADA approved, we can't say the same about boxers.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

So the question is this...how many 'Granite chinned' MMA fighters would get KTFO in 1 or 2 rounds in there with a boxing power puncher?

The argument was Francis has never been KO'd...fighting with 4 ounce gloves, taking kicks and knees and elbows.
Yet he got slept quickly and was out for some time.




Clearly boxers generally hit a lot harder and with more accuracy, but their chins are also way tougher.

I wonder how many other supposed solid chins in MMA like Roy Nelson, Fujita, Mark Hunt, would get put to sleep relatively easily in boxing?

I have a new respect for a boxing Granite Chin.

Boxers learn to ride and roll with punches. It is learned through experience. Francis took the full force of those punches because of his lack of this. I can’t even say it’s amateurish as amis learn to roll with punches

It really is laughable how many people i heard state that Joshua ‘couldn’t’ knock Francis out! And that Francis hits harder than Joshua. I even heard the odd pro boxer spouting this nonsense. I thought Francis might go a bit longer but he was always getting knocked out.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

There is. Behind boxing gloves. And getting counted instead of savagely finished by ground and pound.

I don’t think there’s too many glass chin boxers. You won’t even survive sparring / climbing up the rankings without a chin.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Not really true.

Amir Khan had a horrible chin and was a multiple time, multiple weight world champion in boxing.

People who are saying it's a matter of skill are correct. Boxers simply don't get hit as clean as Francis did, and nowhere near as often.

Amir Khan wouldn't suddenly look like he has a granite or even a good chin just because he's getting punched by MMA fighters. That's not how genetics work.

There will always be some exceptions, but it’s much harder to become a top level boxer with a glass chin than MMA fighter. You could still become a wrestling / ground game oriented fighter and avoid striking as much as possible. In boxing you cannot avoid it. You just have more options, but that also makes MMA difficult because you have to be good at a lot of things, but I still think it would favor a weaker chinned fighter more.

 

[Khaiser]

Why does it seem like so many people on this MMA Forum hate on MMA? Are you all self hating people or something? I don't get it. Also Ngannou really hadn't even been hit all that much, AJ hits super hard and caught Ngannou clean 3x. The 3rd time AJ caught an already hurt ngannou a clean as humanly possible with a shot he threw with full power. Anybody would get ko'd by that.

Why does pointing out the blatantly obvious - that boxers punch harder and have better punch resistance - fall under ‘hating on MMA’.

Wrestlers also have more physical grappling strength than most MMA fighters, and BJJ practitioners a tighter rear naked choke. Muay Thai guys will, in average, be able to kick harder, and absorb leg kicks to a greater degree.

It’s only when it’s boxing that the blatantly obvious becomes contentious, and is seen as ‘hating on MMA’ because of the weird sense of rivalry between the sports.

 

[chinarice]

A chin is a chin. You learn how to roll with punches in boxing.

Imagine thinking the profession you choose automatically equates to you having a better chin.

Don't let reality get in the way of your bro-science

 

[Khaiser]

Not really true.

Amir Khan had a horrible chin and was a multiple time, multiple weight world champion in boxing.

People who are saying it's a matter of skill are correct. Boxers simply don't get hit as clean as Francis did, and nowhere near as often.

Amir Khan wouldn't suddenly look like he has a granite or even a good chin just because he's getting punched by MMA fighters. That's not how genetics work.

*A horrible chin in the context of elite boxers.

It’s like having poor grip strength in the context of an elite Judoka.

It isn’t genetics, and nobody has said it is. It’s a filtering system in which you NEED punch resistance, as opposed to it being a bonus.