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LolNgannou made a mistake leaving the UFC. No more performance of the night bonuses for 50k and no more Reebok kits.
LolNgannou made a mistake leaving the UFC. No more performance of the night bonuses for 50k and no more Reebok kits.
Ngannou made a mistake leaving the UFC. No more performance of the night bonuses for 50k and no more Reebok kits.
Uhhhhh, no?That's a lot of ifs there lol. Especially beating Jones.So again he made more money in boxing faster. He might even fight wilder and make a little more .
It's just as disingenuous to say he would get $15 million in a 3 fight clause (as some people allude to in this thread). Although I have not seen the structure of this potential deal he said no to, I'd imagine if he looked bad on fight 1, and fight 2, than offering $10 million for fight 3 would be completely off the table.Every time people cite his "low" UFC pay they conveniently never mention he was purposefully fighting out an old contract so he could potentially leave. The UFC was trying to pay him more, he was the one saying no.
They also never mention, apart from the offers you said, that his pay got capped at $600K because he lost that first Stipe fight and so never got bumped to the champion pay built into the contract. Probably should've trained instead of fucking off to France like he did cause he was so cocky coming off obliterating Overeem.
Lastly, Fury himself said that $600k was actually what Francis was worth as someone new to the title scene. Even Fury thought Francis was getting a massive pay grade he hadn't earned yet, by both the UFC and boxing standards.
It's all disengenuous as fuck, and his boxing pay is a massive anomaly.
Next make a thread how Jake Paul is a winner for boxing MMA guys and getting more money than UFC fighters. Honestly MMA fans should like MMA fights, not care about money fights. We could've had Ngannou vs Jones/Aspinall/Pavlovich/others. Instead we got to watch him vs 2 of the top boxers. Don't get it wrong, I'm happy he got success, but as a fan we missed out on great fights.
Uhhhhh, no?
He'd be at $15M just fighting Jones and having signed the Stipe contract before that. He doesn't make $10M, which is less than $15M, until Fury 7 months after the Jones fight would've happened. All we're really assuming is he fights in October and March like he literally did anyways. Whether he wins against Jones and in October just determines if he's making $8M/fight or less. Which we have no idea what less is supposed to be, but even at the most conservative estimate it's got to have been more than his old contract of $600k.
As to what ifs, it's not like it wasn't a completely unexpected sceario that Francis actually did well against Fury at the same time that Wilder shit the bed against Parker. What was supposed to happen was Fury easily beats Francis to fight Usyk, Wilder beats Parker to fight Joshua, the winners fight to determine the true #1 HW, and Francis goes back to PFL. We only ever got Joshua/Francis because of two unexpected outcomes.
Who was Francis before the ufc? He was a nobody with a loss to Zoumana Cisse on his record. Francis did his part by winning fights in the ufc, and the ufc did their part by promoting him for doing so. Francis refused to re-sign with the ufc numerous times and lost out on a lot of money because of it, that’s his own fault.
What?It's just as disingenuous to say he would get $15 million in a 3 fight clause (as some people allude to in this thread). Although I have not seen the structure of this potential deal he said no to, I'd imagine if he looked bad on fight 1, and fight 2, than offering $10 million for fight 3 would be completely off the table.
But let's assume it is $15 million as people are suggesting and let's ignore his prior pay structure and fights and consider it his build-up days, you are still paying half of what boxing is paying and requiring 3 fights just to get half of what was earned. So the OT still stands he made a much better decision declining the money offer with the deal he got through boxing.
Yes, Jones vs Francis should've happened in 2021 when Francis was refusing to defend and so an interim title was created.Did you forget that Jones was having contract issues with the UFC and was still working on gaining weight for 2 years? Francis was koing the HW division and having his own issue with Dana. Come on dude, did you leave all the context out by accident? Francis made the right choice, he was already the UFC HW champion koing people dead along the way. He made more money in boxing in less time then he would've in the UFC. And he lost ... And made more money lol
“A UFC exec called and basically said, ‘Hey, what is your ideal timeline, and what is your ideal match up?’” Nicksick told MMA Junkie Radio. “Does it matter what my opinion is? No, but it is nice that they called and asked. I said ideally I would want March, and ideally I would want Jon Jones.
“The person that called agreed 1 million percent that this is what [UFC] would like, as well,” he continued. “That is what Francis would like. They’re calling to figure out timeline on injury and how long I would need to get him ready.”
Francis isn't even a top 10 HW boxer anymore, which he briefly was for his close fight with Fury. That was the only rwason he ever got Joshua, in addition to the much bigger factor that Wilder lost as it was supposed to be AJ/Wilder before that.He really can't. There is no real following for Francis in boxing. His draw is that he is the UFC "champion", He is also getting a huge payday even though he is on the B side. He isn't going to get paid a lot of money for fighting a lesser matchup. All the big fights disappear when if he gets starched by another fighter like Parker or Zhang.
Yes, Jones vs Francis should've happened in 2021 when Francis was refusing to defend and so an interim title was created.
Then it totally should've happened in 2022 when Francis had to defend against his interim champ.
Then it totally should've happened after beating his interim champ when Francis was out for the rest of 2022 with injured knees.
Anywho, here's Francis, Francis' coach, and the UFC saying in October 2022 that Jones vs Francis was being planned for March 2023, the very card Jon instead fought Gane on after Francis instead left in Jan 2023.
Francis Ngannou coach wants Jon Jones fight in March 2023, top UFC exec on board with it
Francis Ngannou’s head coach, Erik Nicksick, reveals a top UFC executive is on board with "The Predator" making his return to action against Jon Jones in early 2023.www.mmamania.com
Remember when that was the same period that Francis was refusing to defend against Lewis who'd previously beaten him?Remember when Jones was on the stevo podcast that he wasn't going to fight Francis unless he got paid alot of money.. he was having the same issues with Dana.
The fact is he made more money in boxing even losing.. don't know why you can't deal with that lol
Isn't this like the fourth version of this exact same thread?
LOL at believing all the $ figures you read.
LOL at believing he made $3.5m in 14 UFC fights.
Remember when that was the same period that Francis was refusing to defend against Lewis who'd previously beaten him?
And then Jon did sign and show up for the actual real card that was planned for in March 2023 and Francis didn't precisely because he didn't want to sign a new contract that relied on beating Jones?
I member.
It isn't going to be with Zhang. Zhang got 600k with Joe Joyce. Zhang can't help sell a PPV. If Francis wants to make headline money then it should be Wilder. Zhang is also taking the rematch with Parker.Francis isn't even a top 10 HW boxer anymore, which he briefly was for his close fight with Fury. That was the only rwason he ever got Joshua, in addition to the much bigger factor that Wilder lost as it was supposed to be AJ/Wilder before that.
The only possible option is Wilder or Zhang for one last freak show fight, but Wilder and Zhang would obviously prefer each other to advance given Francis is no longer even ranked.
He really should just go fight Ferreira in PFL, win or lose retire. He's not pulling off some Cinderella story and coming back to either a boxing or MMA ranking at this point.
It is kinda f*ckedFrancis Ngannou earned $20 million from his fight against Anthony Joshua.
For his fight with Tyson Fury, he earned $10 million, totalling $30 million for two boxing matches.
He made $3.5 million from 14 UFC fights in 7 years.
Francis Ngannou is the real winner
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None of that changes the fact that this thread has been posted like 4 times now, and that's all I said, chiefAn unopposed false narrative is harmful to human society.
Thank you Clark and Lewis.
Let me add 2 bits:
"Dear dumbfuck sherflakes, the purse figures are promotional lies. Nobody is paying Fury or Ngannou or Joshua tens of millions of dollars for those cringe-production dud events.
You sound stupid when you say you believe the promo hype.
However, when you keep making nutsucker threads professing your belief in the promo hype lies, you look like a complete fucking moron."
Okay?
Thanks.
He also made all that boxing money because of his UFC career.
He never would have gotten those boxing pay days if he'd started out with boxing because he'd never have gotten that far, and he'd never gotten those chances in boxing if it wasn't for the spotlight the UFC gave him.
UFC is what brought Big Frank to the dance.
Are people saying he never needed the UFC? What's your point here? Is the $30M is worth less than what a regular $30M is worth because he was in the UFC first?