Dustin Poirier is (almost) everything you want in a fighter

DP's a legend and I like him just as everyone else does but why do people want to see him fight Islam so badly?

Did you not see him get back-mounted at UFC 299?

What do you expect Islam to do to him?
 
Gaethje sat out waiting for Islam to be ready to fight after beating 6 and 2 being Poirer. Charles was ready to go within two weeks of pulling out for his cut. Islam didn't take a punch in his last fight. There was no reason not to just rebook that fight pre Ramadan.both fighters could have easily taken 2-4 weeks off and been back in camp with no issues and limited need to change their prep.

Arman has the same ranked wins as BSD with the signature top 5 win over Dariush,is 8-1 since losing to Islam on debut. His only loss is a close decision via control time to Gamrot who is also a fight or two from a shot. DP lost his top 5 fight vs Gaethje, whilst Arman won his. Poirer is 2-2 for comparison.

Hell yeah Arman is ahead of him and especially if he gets by Charles. DP should be fighting Gamrot or the loser of Charles and Arman.

3 clear fighters ahead of DP, all taking an extra fight due to having to wait for the champ to actually be ready to start a camp. DP going 1-1 or 2-2 in his last 4 with the 2 fights against Mcgregor being his last win streak, would remove any credibility to LW rankings meaning anything.
Gaethje has fought 5 times in 4 years and lost 2 of them. Islam has fought 7 times in that same span and won all 7, finishing 6 of them. Yeah, sometimes it takes more than a 2 fight win streak to get a 3rd title shot.

Not sure how much clearer Oliveira can make it that he doesn't want to fight Islam. He didn't want it the first time, got smashed, then was offered a rematch at ufc 283 in Brazil and turned it down because his coach said he had emotional distress from losing and needed a break, so he was offered it again at 294, Islam predicted Charles wouldn't go through with it, and sure enough he pulled out 12 days before, and you think Islam should take the replacement fight, then go right back into another camp 2 weeks later for a guy who clearly doesn't want the fight? And on the off chance Charles actually did fight, then Islam should fight Arman for his 3rd consecutive rematch against guys over whom he's already a massive favorite because he got 1 ranked win over an older guy coming off a KO loss?

How much more dominant can you be when you now have to beat everybody twice for haters to pin their hopes on maybe some kind of fluke happening?
 
His longevity at the top is fucking crazy. Top 5 LW of all time for sure.. sharing the top with the likes of Khabib and Eddie. Islam will get there too.

He is way better than any version of babyjay penn.
 
He also has brought the best consumable to market of any mma fighter with his creole maple hot sauce.

I say that as a die hard McGregor fan that has consumed enough Proper 12 to have had to recheck fight results the next morning.
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Haven’t tried Tito’s place yet though
 
top 5 LW of all time? can't rate him over anyone who was an actual LW champion. he's probably one of the greatest high level gatekeepers there is though. if you can't beat Poirer you don't deserve to be in top 5 of the division.
So you wouldn't rank poirier above Sean Sherk all time?
 
No they don’t mean anything.

Nobody considered aljo champ.
Nobody considered vitor champ

Belts are just promotional tools to sell tickets.

Wins and losses matter And context of them.

Otherwise Mighty Mouse would be the unanimous GOAT

But come on
Nobody considered Aljo champ? Uh a lot of people did lmao.
 
So you wouldn't rank poirier above Sean Sherk all time?

no. Sean Sherk only lost to other all time great fighters and that was in 2 different weight classes. Poirer has lost to some guys he shouldn't have lost to.
 
I agree, very skilled, very durable, exciting style and approach while still making the right moves to win most of the time. Nice guy beast in cage but still just dorky enough to get some good jokes on. A+ overall
 
He kept on progressing from his early days at FW where he lost against great names (KZ, Cub, Conor) and won against others (Holloway).

He went up a class a collected the scalps of Gaethje, Alvarez, Holloway, Conor, Hooker, Pettis, Chandler..

In a historically deep division, he showed durability, persistence, and regularity. He's still keeping young prospects from getting near that belt.

He's a great boxer, maybe the greatest of the division, he has deceptive cardio, not that easy to take down, he's a fricking dog and he's a danger from round 1 to the end of round 5. You can never count him off and that's why i'm fine with him skipping Charles and Gaethje for another TS

Maybe top 5 LW all time, but for sure a JBG all time candidate and a fan pleaser !

Top 5 LW all time is ridiculous -- he never won the title. There are 4 LW champions alone in history with 3 title defenses, which means he'd have to be better than every UFC LW champion ever that didn't defend 3 times. How is Dustin better than Khabib, BJ, Frankie, and Benson with 3 title defenses?!

This also means he'd have to be ranked higher than Islam, who has 2 title defenses against prime Volk, who is obviously better as a W than Max Holloway or any of Dustin's wins. How is he ranked higher than islam who won the title and defended twice?

Pettis won and defended the UFC LW strap. Dustin beat Pettis (30) in 2017, it was Pettis' 27th professional fight in 10 years. From 2015-2019 Anthony Pettis was 4-7. He lost to Dustin in the middle of the worst five year span of his career. Would you really rank Dustin higher than Pettis because of his victory over him when he was obviously already washed?

Conor beat Dustin at FW, won the title, went to LW and won that title too, so there's an argument there on who's above who there since Conor peaked far higher. There's legit arguments to be had on both sides of that one, imho, but I take Dustin. But, to be fair: Dustin beat Conor in 2021. Conor beat Alvarez in 2016, didn't fight in 2017, lost to Khabib in 2018, didn't fight in 2019, beat Cerrone in 2020 and then lost to Dustin x2 in 2021, so in his last 7 fights he's 3-4 and, well, is Conor.

Charles beat and finished Dustin in Olive's 41st professional fight and Dustin's 36th. Charles won the title and defended the title against Dustin for fucks sake. He has the most finishes in UFC history. How is Dustin ranked higher than Charles?!

Dustin beat Alvarez (34) in 2018. Eddie was in his 36th professional MMA fight in 15 years. Eddie was 4-4-2 in his last 10 professional fights spanning from 2016-2021. Dustin was directly in the middle (6th) of that 10 fight span.

Sean Sherk won and defended the strap. Dude's a pioneer and was like 36-4 as a midget.

He had great wins against featherweight Max (still a great W) and Justin 1.0. He beat Jim Miller, Bobby Green, and Dan Hooker. Okay?

His losses aren't bad at all. Khabib, Charles, Justin 2.0, Michael Johnson, prime Conor.

All this book to say: Dustin has some serious stat padding for his W's over Pettis, Conor and Alvarez. He has never beaten anyone in their prime outside of Max and Justin (who smoked him in the rematch). Any time he sniffs a title fight he gets finished.

Sorry for the novella, but if you said "man he may be the 10th best LW of all time" I'm intrigued. When you say 5th you completely ignore the entire history of the UFC prior to 2018 which is ridiculous.
 
Gaethje has fought 5 times in 4 years and lost 2 of them. Islam has fought 7 times in that same span and won all 7, finishing 6 of them. Yeah, sometimes it takes more than a 2 fight win streak to get a 3rd title shot.

Not sure how much clearer Oliveira can make it that he doesn't want to fight Islam. He didn't want it the first time, got smashed, then was offered a rematch at ufc 283 in Brazil and turned it down because his coach said he had emotional distress from losing and needed a break, so he was offered it again at 294, Islam predicted Charles wouldn't go through with it, and sure enough he pulled out 12 days before, and you think Islam should take the replacement fight, then go right back into another camp 2 weeks later for a guy who clearly doesn't want the fight? And on the off chance Charles actually did fight, then Islam should fight Arman for his 3rd consecutive rematch against guys over whom he's already a massive favorite because he got 1 ranked win over an older guy coming off a KO loss?

How much more dominant can you be when you now have to beat everybody twice for haters to pin their hopes on maybe some kind of fluke happening?

With the end result being Gaethjes last win was a headkick KO over Dustin, Charles finished Dustin and now we have a thread calling for a guy with two recent head to head losses to suddenly jump people that recently beat him because he beat a guy whose best win was Matt Frevola and somehow snuck into the top 10?

Why does it matter if Islam is a massive favourite? His only job is to fight the highest rank fighters in his division who are beating the others. Gaethje defended his top five spot against number 6 and then finished number 2. Charles has recent wins over the entire top 5 when he beat Dariush. Poirer beat a debuting top 10 guy and lost to the other two. Arman should have gotten that (Poirer)fight, whilst Gaethje and Charles were fighting Islam, but instead everyone had to book another fight whilst the champ was growing his hair.

I just want the champion to defend the belt against his own top 5 or to piss off to WW if he wants that belt. Stop holding up the division and fight the multiple contenders ready to go instead of hoping they take each other out and calling out the guy who lost to the others after thinking it will be the easiest match up.
 
He kept on progressing from his early days at FW where he lost against great names (KZ, Cub, Conor) and won against others (Holloway).

He went up a class a collected the scalps of Gaethje, Alvarez, Holloway, Conor, Hooker, Pettis, Chandler..

In a historically deep division, he showed durability, persistence, and regularity. He's still keeping young prospects from getting near that belt.

He's a great boxer, maybe the greatest of the division, he has deceptive cardio, not that easy to take down, he's a fricking dog and he's a danger from round 1 to the end of round 5. You can never count him off and that's why i'm fine with him skipping Charles and Gaethje for another TS

Maybe top 5 LW all time, but for sure a JBG all time candidate and a fan pleaser !

Needs a role in Roadhouse to become complete imo.
 
no. Sean Sherk only lost to other all time great fighters and that was in 2 different weight classes. Poirer has lost to some guys he shouldn't have lost to.
But Dustin has unquestionably better wins than Sherk does, and many of them.
 
DP's a legend and I like him just as everyone else does but why do people want to see him fight Islam so badly?

Did you not see him get back-mounted at UFC 299?

What do you expect Islam to do to him?
No one's available and it's Dustin's last shot. I want to see him get the chance. I'm fine with it not happening too though.
 
No one's available and it's Dustin's last shot. I want to see him get the chance. I'm fine with it not happening too though.

that's very fair but I feel like Dustin and the fans are putting that unnecessary burden on him.

I didn't even remember that he never held a proper UFC championship because for all intents and purposes, he is a former UFC champion with the resume he has.

an interim title is good enough imo, especially at LW.

remember when Big Nog was interim HW champion? he then lost that title but beat the colinear HW champion Randy Couture when they fought after losing to Frank Mir and Brock Lesnar respectively.
 
top 5 LW of all time? can't rate him over anyone who was an actual LW champion.
By that logic Bisping is before Romero in all time MW rankings? Even though we know he would be obliterated by him and Romero has a way better resume?
 
What a ridiculous thread and theory…

Doostin is always the brides made and never the bride because he never got the title, neithert he real title nor the BMF….!!!

There are like 3 or 4 former LW champs with 3 title defenses and now Doostin is in the same category as them? He lost recently to Justin and Charles but is still better then them???

It seems that this thread is only meant to make a good gatekeeper look better than he is in order to boost another fighters shallow legacy and if I look who jumped in to confirm this BS my suspicion seems confirmed.
 
He is a Warrior and I am def. a fan. Plus, I love his hot sauces. They are a little expensive, but very good, imo
 
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