International Iran begins attack on Israel, launching dozens of drones that’ll take hours to arrive

Rod1 said:
Destroy Hezbollah how? If it was easy it would had already been done
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I never promised easy solutions.
I don't think that Hezbollah or Iran will give up their Messianic Jihadist ideologies by playing nice with them.
If you have a solution in mind which does not involve militarily breaking them, I would be happy to hear your thoughts.
 
Samjj said:
I never promised easy solutions.
I don't think that Hezbollah or Iran will give up their Messianic Jihadist ideologies by playing nice with them.
If you have a solution in mind which does not involve militarily breaking them, I would be happy to hear your thoughts.
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Militarily by whom? Only the US has the capacity to end or actually hurt Iranian regime is Israel going to intentionally pull the US into a war?

If no, the Bibi should had not fucked up woth Obama's attempts at detente.
 
Rod1 said:
Militarily by whom? Only the US has the capacity to end or actually hurt Iranian regime is Israel going to intentionally pull the US into a war?

If no, the Bibi should had not fucked up woth Obama's attempts at detente.
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You keep saying that Israel can’t strike Iran… Why do you think that?

But we were talking specifically about Hezbollah a second ago, weren’t we?
 
Rod1 said:
Training doesnt has the ability to make planes to fly without fuel.


It would be a one way trip that would require cooperation from third parties to be achieved.
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Israel has bombers that can strike Iran without refuelling in the air. I know that because it was kind of a big deal when it was first reported a few years back

Even dug up the link for you:
theaviationgeekclub.com

Israeli Air Force F-35I Adir strike fighters can now reach Iran without Aerial Refueling, they can carry new Rafael one-ton bomb - The Aviation Geek Club

Israeli Air Force F-35I Adir strike fighters can now reach Iran without Aerial Refueling, they can carry new Rafael one-ton bomb
theaviationgeekclub.com theaviationgeekclub.com
 
USA!USA! said:
The people that are making these decisions are the ones who are in no danger whatsoever. Fuck them, trying to make the poors kill each other to prove a point to the other rich people in the other country. They are ALL bad.
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This isn’t a unique situation. That’s been the story of war for the last 4 decades.
 
Samjj said:
You keep saying that Israel can’t strike Iran… Why do you think that?

But we were talking specifically about Hezbollah a second ago, weren’t we?
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Hezbollah is too entrenched. that's like trying to get rid of ants. they build themselves into an actor that cannot be taken out, not unless you wanna nuke the entire lebanon.

honestly, i'm looking at Jordan as the future state to go bust over there. sure looks strong now with the mukhabarat in everything and the king basically a european guy, but i think it's all a facade. every time i've been there it just felt all i'm seeing was a show they pack after i leave. Amman is basically the Viena of the middle east - all the spies are there.
 
USA!USA! said:
The people that are making these decisions are the ones who are in no danger whatsoever. Fuck them, trying to make the poors kill each other to prove a point to the other rich people in the other country. They are ALL bad.
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- They're doing for the monetary gain. And Bibi to take the spotlight from his crimes!
 
Fox by the Sea said:
Hezbollah is too entrenched. that's like trying to get rid of ants. they build themselves into an actor that cannot be taken out, not unless you wanna nuke the entire lebanon.

honestly, i'm looking at Jordan as the future state to go bust over there. sure looks strong now with the mukhabarat in everything and the king basically a european guy, but i think it's all a facade. every time i've been there it just felt all i'm seeing was a show they pack after i leave. Amman is basically the Viena of the middle east - all the spies are there.
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An ethnically Palestinian state ruled by a British-Hashemite.

Still more functioning than Syria and Lebanon... I only had a stop over in Amman. Petra is beautiful though
 

Biden’s not changing Israel policy after deadly strike on aid workers​

Some of his senior officials think it’s “a blatantly horrific and stupid mistake.”

By ALEXANDER WARD
04/03/2024 12:21 PM EDT

The Biden administration has no plans to change its policy toward Israel after the ally’s forces killed seven humanitarian aid workers.

President Joe Biden was privately enraged by the deadly strike and in a public statement upbraided Israel for it, calling for “accountability” to those responsible and demanding more humanitarian assistance be allowed into Gaza. But two senior administration officials said that is as far as he and the White House will go for now.

“That’s all we have planned,” said one of the officials, who like others was granted anonymity to speak candidly about administration planning or internal reactions.


It’s the latest example of the United States criticizing Israel’s conduct of the war against Hamas while remaining reluctant to use its leverage to force a change. Biden has stood with Israel as it aims for the military defeat of Hamas, resisting calls from progressives and pro-Palestinian voices to condition military aid or impose other restrictions. Such moves would break, rather than bend, the relationship with Israel, the administration argues. And they would end any sway the U.S. has with Israel over protecting civilians.


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That has caused fissures within the Biden administration. “It’s just rinse and repeat with the Israelis. The American political system can’t or won’t draw a real line with them and that is regrettable,” said a senior U.S. official.

National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby confirmed Wednesday the U.S. is planning no imminent shift in its Israel approach. “We are still supporting their right to defend themselves and we’re going to continue to do that. We’re also going to see what the result of the investigation is,” he said on a call with reporters after prompting by POLITICO, adding “I’m not going to get ahead of decisions that haven’t been made yet.”

Senior Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have apologized for dropping bombs Monday night on the World Central Kitchen convoy. Its three vehicles were clearly marked with WCK’s insignia and traveled along a protected route in central Gaza. And yet Israeli forces still hit the aid workers multiple times despite having been informed of the convoy’s movements. The group has temporarily halted food deliveries after the strike.

In his statement Tuesday night, Biden was stern. “Israel has not done enough to protect aid workers trying to deliver desperately needed help to civilians.” He added: “Incidents like yesterday’s simply should not happen. Israel has also not done enough to protect civilians.”

A second senior administration official expanded on Biden’s message: “The strike on humanitarian aid — at a time when Israel had recently agreed to do more to get aid into northern Gaza — is deeply problematic.”

A preliminary Israeli investigation into the attack indicated that forces wrongfully identified the convoy as hostile targets. “I want to be very clear: the strike was not carried out with the intention of harming WCK aid workers,” Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, chief of the general staff of Israel’s military, said Tuesday in a video message. “It was a mistake that followed a misidentification at night during a war in very complex conditions. It shouldn’t have happened.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/03/biden-israel-strike-aid-workers-gaza-00150356

- But China is the evil one. Biden has always been know as a racist war hawk. Too guys that thought he was any better than Trump. Trump actually dint make any racist or homophobic coments as far as i know!
 

INTRODUCTION: JOE BIDEN’S LONG WAR​

The new president’s paper trail reveals a man who has often betrayed his own bedrock principles.

Jeremy Scahill
April 27 2021, 12:36 p.m

“I’M NOT GOING to change,” Joe Biden said in his 2008 vice presidential debate with Sarah Palin. “I have 35 years in public office. People can judge who I am. I haven’t changed in that time.”

Never in U.S. history has the country had a president with the voluminous paper trail that followed Biden into the White House. Since the Vietnam War, Biden has been in public office for all but four of the past 49 years. He has cast thousands of votes, sponsored or co-sponsored hundreds of bills, and taken public positions on virtually every possible foreign and domestic policy issue. He has served long enough to make it possible to chart, in great detail, the evolution of his positions on a range of issues, to analyze his contradictions, and to draw conclusions about how he sees the role of Congress and the executive branch on the most sensitive and consequential decisions made by the government: decisions about war and organized state violence.

https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/joe-biden-long-war/

- But this was already know, even by me, that only had acess to Biden by magazines and the Saturday Night reruns here
 
Two Crows said:
I don't know about the rest of their military, but as former Boeing employee, I can tell you their Airforce would be devastated without US support. They rely on us for not only aircraft, but also parts (including mandatory replacement parts).

BDS (Boeing Defense Systems, and I think they changed the name after I left ...) is like the Federal Reserve Banks, they are technically private companies, but the governmental intervention of what they can and can not do is significant. IF nothing has changed since I left, for example, Israel may NOT purchase extended fuel tanks for F-15's. They may, however, purchase F-15's ... which Iran can NOT, under any circumstances, for any amount of money. This gives Israel air superiority (or AT LEAST equity) with any nation, except the USA, on Earth.

TLDR; if the US cut them off, their Airforce (greatest advantage they have over neighbors) would be in a constant state of deterioration.

I can't speak for ground forces at all. Don't even know what tank they use.
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- Another proof that they would get their asses handled to them. Boeing is as secure as a Dick Dastardly airplane!:)
 
Chad R. Thundercock said:
He's a rabid anti-semitic Spaniard looking for any excuse to criticize Israel. He tried to insult me by calling me a big-nosed Jew, despite the fact that I am not Jewish.
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- But your nose is big? Now i got your screen-name. It's true with they say about big-noses huum?<goldie>
 
Fox by the Sea said:
Hezbollah is too entrenched. that's like trying to get rid of ants. they build themselves into an actor that cannot be taken out, not unless you wanna nuke the entire lebanon.

honestly, i'm looking at Jordan as the future state to go bust over there. sure looks strong now with the mukhabarat in everything and the king basically a european guy, but i think it's all a facade. every time i've been there it just felt all i'm seeing was a show they pack after i leave. Amman is basically the Viena of the middle east - all the spies are there.
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- They're like the Cobra from the great Chucky Dixon GI Joe comics. I bet they habve legit representants in several corners of the world, all of them in legit political positions. Just like other bigger terrorist orgs.
 
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