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TUF Tate VS Rousey EPISODE 2 DISCUSSION

CELS said:
Same thing occurred to me.

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Maybe they're trying to appeal to the whole "lives with parents" demographics. This could be the new posterboy for school drop-outs who live with their parents.
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90% of sherdog.

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Boekind said:
I struggled at how to describe Shayna but it finally came to me... sense of entitlement. She doesn't think she should have to go out and fight her way into the UFC, they should give it to her. She thinks she is entitled to everything now that the UFC has a womans division, we can see why the UFC brass has passed on signing her.
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You struggled to describe her? It's obvious as fuck, the only thing she says is "she doesn't deserve to be in the octagon with me" and "I'm 10 times the fighter she is". I cringed when I heard that.

Also; fuck Ronda. You can't get mad over people celebrating their victory. I know Tate won't win their fight, but I'd love if she would. Ronda must be the most immature person on the show, and her assistant coach too. Gross.
 
Team Rousey's striking coach is terrible. He knew that Shayna was fighting a wild, inaccurate brawler yet she had no head movement whatsoever. She just kept eating those haymakers and stepping back slowly on the same angle and the excessive-make-up girl used her as a punching bag. It should have been the only thing Rousey's corner were screaming out...HEAD MOVEMENT. They also should have been keeping Shayna grounded rather than feeding her unwarranted over-confidence.

Terrible bush league looking fight. Terrible coaching by Team Rousey.

I hope future fights are going to look less like this and more like Invicta.
 
jerk said:
Team Rousey's striking coach is terrible. He knew that Shayna was fighting a wild, inaccurate brawler yet she had no head movement whatsoever. She just kept eating those haymakers and stepping back slowly on the same angle and the excessive-make-up girl used her as a punching bag. It should have been the only thing Rousey's corner were screaming out...HEAD MOVEMENT. They also should have been keeping Shayna grounded rather than feeding her unwarranted over-confidence.

Terrible bush league looking fight. Terrible coaching by Team Rousey.

I hope future fights are going to look less like this and more like Invicta.
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To be fair, they were not responsible
They had two trainings with her & she has 23 fights already
 
I love how Ronda is getting criticized for "selling out" a fighter that has more experience than any other fighter on the show, including Ronda. You'd expect your 12+year veteran to be in better condition than that and not completely gas out after one round.
 
apostle said:
I love how Ronda is getting criticized for "selling out" a fighter that has more experience than any other fighter on the show, including Ronda. You'd expect your 12+year veteran to be in better condition than that and not completely gas out after one round.
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Who said RR sold her out?
 
September Rust said:
To be fair, Ronda at least didn't lose her last fight going into the Miesha fight. And she got the title shot cause everyone could see that (based on actual skills) she deserved it.

Miesha gets this shot by being pretty (people seem to think so...) and because they seemingly hate each other.

Did Ronda deserve the first fight based on her fighting skills/results? Yes.

Does Miesha deserve the rematch based on her skills/results? No.

But who cares, really. Miesha is one of the best, even if she, at this point in time, doesn't deserve a rematch.
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earning =/= deserving.

I'll agree in retrospect that Ronda deserved her first title shot. But objectively she never earned it.

And after Cat Zingano blew out her knee, who else should have gotten this spot on TUF?
 
FrankieNYC said:
Re-watching Ep 2, I have no idea why I thought it was the same house. Not even close to it
:rolleyes:
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Its kind of a dump compared to the previous one :) . I liked the previous house because it kind of was in synch with the idea of TUF, the motivational angle, like "try and work/fight hard and you might live somewhere like this soon" . Had a bit of a wow quality and made you want it more even. This one now, I dont remember much of it right now but looks like completely average house, tiny dipping pool and cheap hot tub. I wonder why the change.
 
Jmarc said:
It wasn't an easy first round man. They don't have proper time to cut weight here in the house. Don't shit on them for gassing, many guys would have in that situation too.
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Lol comparing them to two dudes who would have gassed isn't really helping your arguement. Just that both sexes can gas hard ...

That second round was one step up from a bar room brawl.

Joe riggs cut thirty pounds 4 times over 18 days in fight master and didn't gas once.
 
TTech said:
Its kind of a dump compared to the previous one :) . I liked the previous house because it kind of was in synch with the idea of TUF, the motivational angle, like "try and work/fight hard and you might live somewhere like this soon" . Had a bit of a wow quality and made you want it more even. This one now, I dont remember much of it right now but looks like completely average house, tiny dipping pool and cheap hot tub. I wonder why the change.
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It really is a step down
I have no idea why I didn't catch the obvious
 
LilMountain said:
How soon was she cutting weight again after her last fight? That might have been hard on her regardless of her experience
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She was cutting weight as soon as Pena was cutting weight, what is the difference? They probably fought on the same day to get into the house so why didn't Pena gassed?

She didn't gas because she probably has better cardio do begin with and she actually land good strikes on Shayna, accumulating damage on Shayna while as the veteran Shayna not only didn't land any damage but also didn't know how to pace herself and maybe, oh I don't know, move her head and get away from those sloppy punches of Pena?

Talk about all that experience and Shayna doesn't see that Pena has her chin open for uppercut the whole time. Pena was extending WAY toomuch with those sloppy punches, one or two uppercuts and its over. Any fighter with average counter striking would put Pena to sleep fast.

Pena won by heart and I'm very glad. Also Shayna is not such a great fighter as she thinks.
 
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ArtOfDrowning said:
Pena won by heart and I'm very glad. Also Shayna is not such a great fighter as she thinks.
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I agree about the heart
Also Shayna last 3 losses were to the competition she faced that she was bragging about. I found that weird.
She was 1-4 against ranked UFC fighters
 
Gervinho said:
I dont want to brag, but i said this in the first episode thread how the pick didnt make any sense and Ronda sold her out by trying to make a point to tate. I guess the point was to take out her first pick to get a physiological advantage......but its a move she didnt have to make

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=86647597#post86647597
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Brag away man :icon_chee

But to be fair RR thinking Shayna would win is what most would think
But what made me smirk was RR so sure Tate was going to be demoralized by the outcome that she had no idea she would do everything she hope Tate would
That is great TV & why so many are having fun in threads since last night
 
FrankieNYC said:
Brag away man :icon_chee

But to be fair RR thinking Shayna would win is what most would think
But what made me smirk was RR so sure Tate was going to be demoralized by the outcome that she had no idea she would do everything she hope Tate would
That is great TV & why so many are having fun in threads since last night
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Shayna was favourite due to her background. But it was still first pick vs first pick. You pick the easiest fight on paper when you decide the first fight to get a momentum. Instead it was like Im gonna take Meishas friend out
 
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