UFN 96 pbp/discussion

Depends on the strikes landed obviously. But if both are landing similar type strikes (power shots) I don't see why moving forward matters. So the guy moving away or waiting to counter is slightly more effective but he should be penalized? My opinion is no, but that's just me.

I suppose if a guy NEVER moved forward AT ALL that's different. Because if neither guy did, it would be a staring contest. But Dodson did pick a few spots where he did. He initiated a few exchanges. Meaning he wasn't there to run, he was there to fight. Just not in a phone booth. And if he was more effective (and I think he was, if barely), he shouldn't be penalized for it.


Just don't know what to say. Some of u seem to have just seen it different. I'm not saying Lineker clearly won. But I had a good feeling he would win. And I wasn't sweating it. I'm actually surprised no judge had it 49-46. I'm sorry, but Dodson actually did run at times. And it cost him.
 
Seriously. How can u say that after this fight happened. U and a few guys in here said basically the same thing about this fight. Come on man
Lol are you serious? They're different fights. Youre one of these guys who wins a bet and feels all of a sudden he needs to act almighty huh. Great another one of these types.
 
Seriously. How can u say that after this fight happened. U and a few guys in here said basically the same thing about this fight. Come on man
Lol what? I said this fight was speed vs power and it was close. The only reason Lineker arguably won here was because his chin is ridiculous and his cardio was better than I expected.

Cruz and TJ have better footwork and cardio and higher output. It honestly wouldn't be close. Lineker beats everyone else though as long as his chin holds up.
 
I can't take anyone who uses the word "running" in MMA seriously. It's the biggest sign you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.
 
Dodson ran. i guess no one should ever look to counter, just plant feet and throw bombs

Lineker isn't a one note guy who only pushes forward with heavy hooks....even though he did that for 25 mins

Dodson = Cruz & Dillashaw now and Lineker winning this showed hes a championship level fighter.

Good Lord what winning a bet will do to some people
 
Except Dodson has a lot less ways of using his speed. He circled and never cut angles. He used his speed in his strikes and darting straight in. Plus those guys can hit reactive tds for days, Dodson can't. Higher output too. It wouldn't even be close

Bro, this was argued endlessly. The Lineker backers said everything u just said. But Dodson backers said Dodson could do all that.

Saying TJ smokes Lineker easy IMO is the same hyperbole that Dodson backers used this damn fight.

U guys realize that both Zombie Barao and Joe Soto were able to connect on TJ. But u think Lineker will not land ONE damn strike? How can u say this stuff with a straight face
 
I can't take anyone who uses the word "running" in MMA seriously. It's the biggest sign you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Ok bro. I think maybe u and I should just stay clear of each other.

I'd suggest just giving congrats to all right sides of a bet no matter if u win or lose. Not go full Barry and make excuses and act like the other side is still less intelligent even though they made the correct bet.
 
Hopefully UFC 204 is a little more entertaining.

Out of 12 fights on the Lineker vs. Dodson card, only 3 were fun to watch, imo.

nakamura-zaleski
dodson-lineker
frankenstein-christensen?
 
Bro, this was argued endlessly. The Lineker backers said everything u just said. But Dodson backers said Dodson could do all that.

Saying TJ smokes Lineker easy IMO is the same hyperbole that Dodson backers used this damn fight.

U guys realize that both Zombie Barao and Joe Soto were able to connect on TJ. But u think Lineker will not land ONE damn strike? How can u say this stuff with a straight face
It was a close fight. The major factor was Lineker's output, thats literally it. Every other argument proved valid from both sides, but just one talking point really decided the fight.

Its not, cause they're not the same fighter at all. Smh.

No one is saying Lineker won't land, but he will get 49-46'd by Cruz or TJ. Do you really not understand that Dodson is not like either of those guys?
 
Dodson ran. i guess no one should ever look to counter, just plant feet and throw bombs

Lineker isn't a one note guy who only pushes forward with heavy hooks....even though he did that for 25 mins

Dodson = Cruz & Dillashaw now and Lineker winning this showed hes a championship level fighter.

Good Lord what winning a bet will do to some people
It's what being a clueless casual fan will do to you

People expect fighters to glue their feet to the middle of the canvas and windmill overhands at each other until one of them drops


Same morons who hated on Mayweather for schooling guys like Canelo
 
guys, i know some of us lost some $, i know this kind of thing can be emotionally charged, but let's keep it friendly, keep it civil. if someone says something rude, turn a blind eye or pm me about it, don't perpetuate immature behavior
 
I can't take anyone who uses the word "running" in MMA seriously. It's the biggest sign you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.

It only means you don't properly understand how judges will consider that into how they rule the fight
 
It was a close fight. The major factor was Lineker's output, thats literally it. Every other argument proved valid from both sides, but just one talking point really decided the fight.

Its not, cause they're not the same fighter at all. Smh.

No one is saying Lineker won't land, but he will get 49-46'd by Cruz or TJ. Do you really not understand that Dodson is not like either of those guys?

I understand that TJ takes punishment. And that could hurt him against Lineker. I also know that it would be lame for me to say Lineker will easily smoke TJ.
 
It only means you don't properly understand how judges will consider that into how they rule the fight

Probably best to just let it go at this point. I don't think the argument is being understood.
 
i agree that TJ and cruz are the toughest fights for cruz.. but they're the toughest fights for everyone at 135... they're 1-2-3, hard to argue, for 135, no?

tho i disagree that he has "no chance" vs them. cruz would be tougher, cause he's just harder to hit.

would love to see marlon moraes come to the ufc, i think he could compete with all 3 guys
 
I understand that TJ takes punishment. And that could hurt him against Lineker. I also know that it would be lame for me to say Lineker will easily smoke TJ.
So your argument is, TJ has been hit clean in his career like basically every fighter to ever exist, and Dodson is fast even though not like TJ at all in any other regard, so that equates to Lineker being able to beat him? OK then
 
It only means you don't properly understand how judges will consider that into how they rule the fight
WTF are you talking about now? I'm talking about people who call resetting to the center and not staying against the cage like a moron "running"
 
i agree that TJ and cruz are the toughest fights for cruz.. but they're the toughest fights for everyone at 135... they're 1-2-3, hard to argue, for 135, no?

tho i disagree that he has "no chance" vs them. cruz would be tougher, cause he's just harder to hit.

would love to see marlon moraes come to the ufc, i think he could compete with all 3 guys
Dodson took Lineker's back at one point. Maybe a grappler would have a chance
 
Dodson took Lineker's back at one point. Maybe a grappler would have a chance

could see that, what elite grappler at 135 could survive lineker / get him in that position at this point, tho?
 
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