Bellator 170: Tito vs Chael

so just fyi, kato has never been O1.5. i'm not sure he ever will be with his style. couple that with a one dimensional grappler with no hands? yea, i think kato gets him early.. or hell, i'll take a gracie early sub, haha
 
I took Chael as part of a two unit basketball parlay. I'm just not impressed with Tito but it's definitely a crap shoot.
 
i think people are forgetting that chael hasn't fought since 2013, suspended for roids afterwards and pseudo-retired

i'm hardly touting tito, but yea
 
I am all over Chael. I just think the mental attitude at this point is what wins this fight. Chael, if you forget about his talking and just his fighting, does not give up. he puts in the work and he does fight the best. He wrestled Bisping not too long ago i believe to a draw. All things considered I think Chael has way more tools and just has more pride than tito does. I hate that its in bellator because it does seem like i am betting on pro wrestling and the result has already been determined. I would not be shocked if Tito won, I just think chael is better at this point in most areas, most important heart and pride, to put in the work before the event to be in the spot to win.
 
I'm playing Kato/Gracie u1.5+Ward/Daley u1.5

2u paying +127

Neither of these should see rd 2. EZ explained Kato/Gracie as well as I could and Ward knows one way to fight and that's rock 'em sock 'em robots.
 
I guess I'm going against the Sherdog grain here. I got Chael at -156. Didn't put a lot on him though. He has moved up slightly to -170 on my site.

I just think he's a better fighter at this point. I don't think size will be much of an issue and I think Chael will come in on the special sauce. Tito might hit some PEDs as well but Chael on PED is an animal. I don't like either guy's schtick though.
you might be right but it seems like a total guess to me since he has not fought in over 3 years? there is no way to tell if chael has anything left at this point.. at least tito has fought 3 times and been training while chael have been retired
 
think i will bet Ward too feels like a 50/50 fight to me
 
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i really like ward here. he'll have the size advantage, wrestling advantage, plus he's younger, fresher.

daley is a small welterweight and looked like shit in his last bout - athletically he looked like he'd lost a step. not surprising given he's 33 and has had over 50 fights (more if you include kickboxing). his style of fighting isn't conducive to longevity either, i think he could be declining.

i'm happy to hit ward at +130, might even parlay him with kato.
 
I have Chael in an MMA/NFL parlay along with the Packers and Patriots. Don't fuck this up for me gangster!
 
i really like ward here. he'll have the size advantage, wrestling advantage, plus he's younger, fresher.

daley is a small welterweight and looked like shit in his last bout - athletically he looked like he'd lost a step. not surprising given he's 33 and has had over 50 fights (more if you include kickboxing). his style of fighting isn't conducive to longevity either, i think he could be declining.

i'm happy to hit ward at +130, might even parlay him with kato.

He's up to +160..
 
let's see where he opens in the uk, won't be until tomorrow.
 
Tito been training with Parillo and looks like Bisping have been in the camp too

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Surprised Gracie is at +245. Kato is not very good.
 
someone throw me a bone i want a dog to bet on this card. someone tell me why and who please.
 
someone throw me a bone i want a dog to bet on this card. someone tell me why and who please.

I'm currently on Ward and Gracie. Daley simply hasn't looked that good greatly. If Ward didn't have some wrestling in his back pocket, I could understand the odds. I think Daley is the better striker, but Ward obviously has power and speed. If the fight drags on, he can bring out his wrestling too and at least make Daley gunshy.

Kato is getting way overrated due to his wins over Schilling. I just don't think he's looked that good. I think the discrepancy on the ground will be just as big as the discrepancy standing, and I honestly wouldn't count on Kato having great takedown defense.
 
Ralek is gonna kill Kato, He's a G in Gi

 
After watching the workout video I've decided I'm paying the price for Chael... for 2u at that. He looks into it, and even like he's been improving his skillset. There's zero chance Tito has been doing that. Even vs. a decent version of Tito, Chael should probably be -170, but I just can't see a decent version showing up.
 
Fuck, should have pulled the trigger on Chael at 1.67, down to 1.52 now.
 
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