UFN 108 - Swanson vs Lobov - Nashville

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I actually think this is the second most likely scenario for the outcome with them being

JD x TKO 42%
JD x DEC 28%
Eddie x TKO 17%
JD X SUB 10%
Eddie x SUB 3%

All give or take ~

Quick cap

Is that a mistake or are you saying Wineland has a 0% chance of winning a decision?
 
Want to guess how many times De Lima has gone to rd 2 in his last 10 fights? Exactly once. He's kill or be killed, Gamblou is right about that. De Lima will do what he does and come full bore at OSP. He'll either land and finish, get starched himself, or get taken down and pounded out or subbed most likely.

Fight does not start rd 2 is about the same price as OSP here. (-165). Not sure why we wouldn't expect this thing to be over quickly one way or another.
100%, interested to see OSP's gameplan though, he's looked more tentative in his recent fights. OSP is fighting at home, he's lost 4 of his last 5, backs against the wall, does he play it safe in round 1 against a 1 round fighter? Wouldn't be totally shocked to see a 2nd round but a 3rd is highly unlikely. Although OSP has gone the distance in 3 of his last 4 bouts.

I think OSP is going to take him down, he tries to TD all his opponents and I think he'll have a big edge on the ground, De Lima is just as likely to go for a guillotine than defend a TD (33% TDD). He was cranking full force on Krylov's neck when the choke wasn't even close, desperate attempts.

De Lima can win by KO and thats it. I don't think OSP is chinny but De Lima obviously hits like a truck. The value is on OSP, he's the better all round fighter, he's in a must win situation and he's fighting a guy that is dangerous but very beatable. I am trying to hard to convince myself here.
 
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100%, interested to see OSP's gameplan though, he's looked more tentative in his recent fights. OSP is fighting at home, he's lost 4 of his last 5, backs against the wall, does he play it safe in round 1 against a 1 round fighter? Wouldn't be totally shocked to see a 2nd round but a 3rd is highly unlikely. Although OSP has gone the distance in 3 of his last 4 bouts.

I think OSP is going to take him down, he tries to TD all his opponents and I think he'll have a big edge on the ground, De Lima is just as likely to go for a guillotine than defend a TD (33% TDD). He was cranking full force on Krylov's neck when the choke wasn't even close, desperate attempts.

De Lima can win by KO and thats it. I don't think OSP is chinny but De Lima obviously hits like a truck. The value is on OSP, he's the better all round fighter, he's in a must win situation and he's fighting a guy that is dangerous but very beatable. I am trying to hard to convince myself here.

But De Lima isn't just aggressive, he's flat out reckless. Against a guy like this, you don't get to decide if you strategy is "play it safe" or "go for the kill". He decides for you. Meaning OSP is gonna either throw back or take De Lima down, he can't try to play matador against a guy who will so willingly put himself in harm's way in order to force exchanges. There's like 10 guys on planet earth with good enough footwork to do that (Dom Cruise-type guys). OSP isn't one of them.

Do I think OSP wins? Yeah, gun to my head I think he does. But I think the likelihood it ends in rd 1 one way or another is greater than that.
 
But De Lima isn't just aggressive, he's flat out reckless. Against a guy like this, you don't get to decide if you strategy is "play it safe" or "go for the kill". He decides for you. Meaning OSP is gonna either throw back or take De Lima down, he can't try to play matador against a guy who will so willingly put himself in harm's way in order to force exchanges. There's like 10 guys on planet earth with good enough footwork to do that (Dom Cruise-type guys). OSP isn't one of them.

Do I think OSP wins? Yeah, gun to my head I think he does. But I think the likelihood it ends in rd 1 one way or another is greater than that.


I have OSP in a parlay, but apart from that I agree. I think LB value could be had on OSP if De Lima takes the first round due to sheer aggression and doesn't finish.
 
But De Lima isn't just aggressive, he's flat out reckless. Against a guy like this, you don't get to decide if you strategy is "play it safe" or "go for the kill". He decides for you. Meaning OSP is gonna either throw back or take De Lima down, he can't try to play matador against a guy who will so willingly put himself in harm's way in order to force exchanges. There's like 10 guys on planet earth with good enough footwork to do that (Dom Cruise-type guys). OSP isn't one of them.

Do I think OSP wins? Yeah, gun to my head I think he does. But I think the likelihood it ends in rd 1 one way or another is greater than that.

He is the most reckless fighter in the UFC by far,
He is even more desperate to finish the fight in the first round than Entwistle, and that's not easy
 
Wow OSP DEC +1300 now. Hard on U1.5 but almost seems stab worthy. Could see him tentative on a losing streak and it going like the Feijao fight.

Or De Lima gassing and OSP just frustratingly not finishing
 
But De Lima isn't just aggressive, he's flat out reckless. Against a guy like this, you don't get to decide if you strategy is "play it safe" or "go for the kill". He decides for you. Meaning OSP is gonna either throw back or take De Lima down, he can't try to play matador against a guy who will so willingly put himself in harm's way in order to force exchanges. There's like 10 guys on planet earth with good enough footwork to do that (Dom Cruise-type guys). OSP isn't one of them.

Do I think OSP wins? Yeah, gun to my head I think he does. But I think the likelihood it ends in rd 1 one way or another is greater than that.
OSP is going to take him down or he's going to at least try. I know what De Lima is going to do but OSP is a wild card at this point, hasn't been looking like himself lately, far less aggressive, this could look like OSP vs Cavalcante.
 
Wow OSP DEC +1300 now. Hard on U1.5 but almost seems stab worthy. Could see him tentative on a losing streak and it going like the Feijao fight.

Or De Lima gassing and OSP just frustratingly not finishing

Where are you seeing that?
 
So I just watched both of Schnell's fights on TUF 24 --- still not sure what everyone is talking about.

He lost position multiple times against Rizzo who was very wreckless and tense in there, and tapped to a side control/neck crank? from Tim Elliot....

He LOCKED IN a triangle on Rizzo and was unable to get the tap in the first round...

Doubling down on Sandoval, who I think has as good a chance at getting the sub in this fight as Schnell.

Edit: a front naked choke win by Elliot
 
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Alvey NSC +166 seems way off, I don't see a finish from Leites

you think alvey is gonna ko leites? he's never been ko'd, fought absolute studs his whole career

i still like the over here. just leites sub could prevent it
 
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So I just watched both of Schnell's fights on TUF 24 --- still not sure what everyone is talking about.

He lost position multiple times against Rizzo who was very wreckless and tense in there, and tapped to a side control/neck crank? from Tim Elliot....

He LOCKED IN a triangle on Rizzo and was unable to get the tap in the first round...

Doubling down on Sandoval, who I think has as good a chance at getting the sub in this fight as Schnell.

Edit: a front naked choke win by Elliot
Don't do it my friend
 
man, FOTN is so hard to pick here

swanson lobov could f'ing get it if it goes long

iaquinta-sanchez? hell yes it could

wineland dodson? absolutely

lauzon-ray? uh, yes, it's a joe lauzon fight <--- wtf it's only +250 on a 13 fight tough-to-pick card, haha... tempted to do NOT FOTN here

perry ellenberger? yep

ortiz-moreno scramblefest 2.0 (elliot-smolka) -- mmhmm...

barberena-proctor is gonna be sloppy but it's prolly gonna be fun

ok, i'm stopping here. point illustrated. didn't even talk about schnell-sandoval or a couple others.

FOTN is a total crapshoot here.
 
Some very big line movement, OSP/Lima under 1.5 was -135 and is now -270. Ortiz/Moreno nsc props flipped sides and then some, Ortiz nsc went from +180 to -295. I was on the earlier odds and I will probably keep the plays as they are.
 
Me thinking about parlaying OSP + Holtzman

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I just laid $3 on Lauzon, Leites and Swanson all by sub...at just under 200 to 1. Ha. 3 for $594. RNC party!!!
 
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