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@lawmills2006 - Im hearing you - was so pumped to wake up , head to the pub and watch this card on a drunken sunday morning - now I will probably check how my golf bets are going!
Pretty much zero chance he goes to jail over this.What the fuck is he doing? @EndlessCritic you're an attorney he's got the money for representation to get him off any significant jail time, correct?
Pretty much zero chance he goes to jail over this.
However, he will have his suit sued off of him.
I have zero idea how the visa thing will work.Not sure if this is your area of expertise within the legal field, but you're still gonna know more than the rest of us.
Is it likely he's able to settle with everyone who's liable to try to get a piece of him because of this. You have essentially everyone on the bus, the security guys, the venue, the UFC (if they'd actually pursue legal action against their cash cow). If he just throws, IDK, $10m-$15 to his legal team and says "Spread this around and settle all of this out of court" is there a good chance it works and all the civil stuff goes away?
And what about visa issues, etc.? Does his status as an international superstar sort of ensure he can still come and go as he pleases, but during this and after?
As for the criminal aspect, I'm assuming he's gonna get a hefty dose of mandatory community service as part of his plea? Probably some anger management classes too?
Can we talk about JJ and Thug Rose for a second? Rose has dealt with an abusive relationship in the past. Her father was a schizophrenic and had to leave her family. Pat Barry has commented that she's a very emotional person.
As you all know, she was almost hit while in the bus yesterday, which led her to be "super upset" and "shaken up" because of the incident
During the weigh-ins, Joe asked her how does it feel to be in the position of being the champion- to which she replied "I'm super blessed and grateful to be here, despite everything that has gone on this week. I'm just grateful for another chance to face my fears and to prove to myself that I'm the best in the world". Normally I wouldn't read too much into it, but I think it's interesting that she primarily addressed the bus incident when she wasn't directly asked about it
I hate when people try to play psychologist in these threads, but I think this is a unique situation where it's at least worth discussing. Does anyone think this emotional distress plays a big enough factor in a fight that's essentially a pick em at current odds?
Amateur psychology incoming. Rose has deep paranoia and anxiety. She has expressed a lot in the past about "just wanting to be comfortable" and about "having to look over her shoulder constantly" as a child and also "feeling bad energy" about an area they're frequenting. As someone pointed out earlier, at UFC 217 she had a bit of a run in with the Antifa protests as well as a few other adversities but none to the level of the Donor incident. One key factor about that incident? She wasn't with her team. They're the ones that can get inside her head and calm her down. Because she was by herself, a bit of that old paranoia set in and she was morbidly freaked out. I mean who wouldn't be? She'll be thinking about it for a few weeks from now.Can we talk about JJ and Thug Rose for a second? Rose has dealt with an abusive relationship in the past. Her father was a schizophrenic and had to leave her family. Pat Barry has commented that she's a very emotional person.
As you all know, she was almost hit while in the bus yesterday, which led her to be "super upset" and "shaken up" because of the incident
During the weigh-ins, Joe asked her how does it feel to be in the position of being the champion- to which she replied "I'm super blessed and grateful to be here, despite everything that has gone on this week. I'm just grateful for another chance to face my fears and to prove to myself that I'm the best in the world". Normally I wouldn't read too much into it, but I think it's interesting that she primarily addressed the bus incident when she wasn't directly asked about it
I hate when people try to play psychologist in these threads, but I think this is a unique situation where it's at least worth discussing. Does anyone think this emotional distress plays a big enough factor in a fight that's essentially a pick em at current odds?
yeah i agree with your points Rose seems a bit weak mentally. I think small things can throw her off. She talked about it some on JRE.Can we talk about JJ and Thug Rose for a second? Rose has dealt with an abusive relationship in the past. Her father was a schizophrenic and had to leave her family. Pat Barry has commented that she's a very emotional person.
As you all know, she was almost hit while in the bus yesterday, which led her to be "super upset" and "shaken up" because of the incident
During the weigh-ins, Joe asked her how does it feel to be in the position of being the champion- to which she replied "I'm super blessed and grateful to be here, despite everything that has gone on this week. I'm just grateful for another chance to face my fears and to prove to myself that I'm the best in the world". Normally I wouldn't read too much into it, but I think it's interesting that she primarily addressed the bus incident when she wasn't directly asked about it
I hate when people try to play psychologist in these threads, but I think this is a unique situation where it's at least worth discussing. Does anyone think this emotional distress plays a big enough factor in a fight that's essentially a pick em at current odds?
i now have less than 5 units on the card. and in no hurry to do squat on iaquinta-khabib, jlauzon-gruetz, evanssmith-rawlings, oam-dunham, or clark-rodriguez. and that's with a half unit on the zabit props and herrig. i really only have two plays tomorrow. rose and kattar (with props etc.)
i might not even watch this shit live, man. universe is telling me to just stay retired, lol
Hate mcCokehead scared the shit out of Rose.Injured Borg.Two fights i was confident in betting.Amateur psychology incoming. Rose has deep paranoia and anxiety. She has expressed a lot in the past about "just wanting to be comfortable" and about "having to look over her shoulder constantly" as a child and also "feeling bad energy" about an area they're frequenting. As someone pointed out earlier, at UFC 217 she had a bit of a run in with the Antifa protests as well as a few other adversities but none to the level of the Donor incident. One key factor about that incident? She wasn't with her team. They're the ones that can get inside her head and calm her down. Because she was by herself, a bit of that old paranoia set in and she was morbidly freaked out. I mean who wouldn't be? She'll be thinking about it for a few weeks from now.
Now, I guarantee Pat and Wittman are working with Rose, meditating on crystals, breathing exercises, chanting her mantra, the works. Her team back home are probably getting in contact with her too. Gaethje included. She needs to be reassured. Refocused.
She'll still be the most dangerous early and might wilt if she gets outlasted in the later rounds. Her having a bit of a freak out doesn't make Joanna less chinny either.
She'll have a bit of media to attend to tomorrow. I think we ought to look at that as it comes out. Fwiw I'm on Rose too and I have a bad feeling about it.
IDK about how it affects Rose honestly. (More armchair psychology incoming...).
Could it have a negative affect on her? Absolutely. But the reverse is true as well. If her anxiety really does stem from previous abusive relationships and her father's mental health issues, there's a good chance the thing she most fears is helplessness. People stuck in abusive relationships tend to feel powerless and trapped. I'd imagine the situation with her father left her feeling helpless as well when there was nothing she could do for him. The situation with Antifa, the craziness with Conor's gang, same thing. She was powerless to do anything about her situation.
But stepping into the cage, she controls her own destiny. She's not powerless, it's one other woman in front of her that she is battling on even terms. She has a level of control. It's a place she's familiar with and comfortable in.
So basically, imo we're sort of right back at square one. Her routine was thrown off before their first fight, and she gave the performance of her life. This time...who knows? Maybe this was worse and she's rattled so badly that she'll look awful. Maybe she'll be so relieved to be in the cage that she'll look calm and composed and lay waste to JJ again. Maybe none of this matters that much at all and we're speculating for no reason. I think it's really just guessing in trying to get a good read on any of this.
UFC isn't even giving refunds on tickets despite NY Law saying they're supposed to. They don't give a fuck about anything.
Rose is shook 100%Good discussions and input
Just logging in after a work trip.
What a crock of shit this week has been. Fuck Mcgregor for ruining some juicy fights.
I wanted a degen weekend, and now I don't know where to turn.