UFC 227 PBP/Discussion

You are hardly at "the top" but to be fair you're results are pretty decent but you do play like an amateur. Your record is a complete mess, it looks sloppy and it must be hard to tail. You have like a dozen bets per card and you also bet a lot of props which is another clear sign of someone that is an amateur with a small bankroll. Big boys play ML

Why not just clean up your record and stop posting your bets in such a messy way, it would look much more respectable.

99% of "touts" (lol) on betmma are broke frauds that don't know what they're doing. A lot of them also post bullshit odds and bet ridiculous stakes, like you say 11u players.

Even that Oracle MMA guy, he's got really good looking results but he's inflated his record by betting a lot of 11u plays early on, he built is record of that but now he doesn't do it anymore so his ROI and profit is very misleading.

I really don't know any MMA touts that would be worth paying for. Even more well known ones like bestfightpicks are really not good at all, they haven't profited anything in over 13 months lol and they are trying to take peoples money.
You've got nil proof of any of your claims. If you're so confident in what you do, prove anything at all. You've made some good calls on your umpteenth Sherdog account, but there's no form of actual tracking. My ML stats are just as good as my prop stats, and the MMA market is so consistently inefficient it's best to play as many per card in order to eliminate variance as much as possible. You talk a lot of shit for somebody who's consistently provided essentially no evidence of their abilities. I've got a demonstrable 19% ROI on ML plays over the last 13 months or so, with an averge size of <2u. You claim a 20% return with zero proof whatsoever, and delete accounts whenever you get banned for being a pissant, or get one of your big picks wrong. Make a tracker if you're so confident.

Fraud touts are an issue, of course, but most of them rely on the 1-2 plays per card model and thus get struck down by wild variance swings. MMA is volatile enough as a sport that it's rarely worth going 5u+ on anybody.

Who do you think is at the top of betmma? I'd argue there's nobody with my ROI or consistency over a truly meaningful sample size, especially when you cancel out those that have half of their units profit off hitting one +1000 prop-parlay when they first genned their account. There's a lot of shit in the MMA tout business, but I makea point of being affordable ($14 a week, as opposed to $100-odd I've seen from some of the bigger servies) and not wildly overpromising. I've got the best results over any 200+ sample size, my graph doesn't look like a dude having a heart attack unlike most of the people that randomly surface with a better ROI after fluking a week or two and then go back to shit quicksmart. Please spare me your response in the form of a video of a tout telling us about the secret cabal of 'sharps 'that play 6-figures per play and who are all pulling in 7-figures a year, that you could join by just paying him a few hundred of your dollars a week.

I play mid-hundred units because I feel it's the best spot for my psychological wellbeing. I've worked in fields where I've played financial instruments that've had multiple-thousands on the line in the blink of an eye, and I'd rather pull a comfortable income from it than have to shit myself every time variance swings against me.
 
Last edited:
You've got nil proof of any of your claims. If you're so confident in what you do, prove anything at all. You've made some good calls on your umpteenth Sherdog account, but there's no form of actual tracking. My ML stats are just as good as my prop stats, and the MMA market is so consistently inefficient it's best to play as many per card in order to eliminate variance as much as possible. You talk a lot of shit for somebody who's consistently provided essentially no evidence of their abilities. I've got a demonstrable 19% ROI on ML plays over the last 13 months or so, with an averge size of <2u. You claim a 20% return with zero proof whatsoever, and delete accounts whenever you get banned for being a pissant, or get one of your big picks wrong. Make a tracker if you're so confident.

Fraud touts are an issue, of course, but most of them rely on the 1-2 plays per card model and thus get struck down by wild variance swings. MMA is volatile enough as a sport that it's rarely worth going 5u+ on anybody.

Who do you think is at the top of betmma? I'd argue there's nobody with my ROI or consistency over a truly meaningful sample size, especially when you cancel out those that have half of their units profit off hitting one +1000 prop-parlay when they first genned their account. There's a lot of shit in the MMA tout business, but I makea point of being affordable ($14 a week, as opposed to $100-odd I've seen from some of the bigger servies) and not wildly overpromising. I've got the best results over any 200+ sample size, my graph doesn't look like a dude having a heart attack unlike most of the people that randomly surface with a better ROI after fluking a week or two and then go back to shit quicksmart. Please spare me your response in the form of a video of a tout telling us about the secret cabal of 'sharps 'that play 6-figures per play and who are all pulling in 7-figures a year, that you could join by just paying him a few hundred of your dollars a week.

I play mid-hundred units because I feel it's the best spot for my psychological wellbeing. I've worked in fields where I've played financial instruments that've had multiple-thousands on the line in the blink of an eye, and I'd rather pull a comfortable income from it than have to shit myself every time variance swings against me.


Why don't you back you picks up with the actual bets? You do realize anyone on here would be profitable if they were using $1 units and getting the best prices. It doesn't take long for books to limit you if you win. I suspect you aren't putting much at all on these picks and are getting big prices on most. You can easily prove me wrong by backing up your picks with the actual bets but the fact that you won't speaks volumes.
 
You've got nil proof of any of your claims. If you're so confident in what you do, prove anything at all. You've made some good calls on your umpteenth Sherdog account, but there's no form of actual tracking. My ML stats are just as good as my prop stats, and the MMA market is so consistently inefficient it's best to play as many per card in order to eliminate variance as much as possible. You talk a lot of shit for somebody who's consistently provided essentially no evidence of their abilities. I've got a demonstrable 19% ROI on ML plays over the last 13 months or so, with an averge size of <2u. You claim a 20% return with zero proof whatsoever, and delete accounts whenever you get banned for being a pissant, or get one of your big picks wrong. Make a tracker if you're so confident.

Fraud touts are an issue, of course, but most of them rely on the 1-2 plays per card model and thus get struck down by wild variance swings. MMA is volatile enough as a sport that it's rarely worth going 5u+ on anybody.

Who do you think is at the top of betmma? I'd argue there's nobody with my ROI or consistency over a truly meaningful sample size, especially when you cancel out those that have half of their units profit off hitting one +1000 prop-parlay when they first genned their account. There's a lot of shit in the MMA tout business, but I makea point of being affordable ($14 a week, as opposed to $100-odd I've seen from some of the bigger servies) and not wildly overpromising. I've got the best results over any 200+ sample size, my graph doesn't look like a dude having a heart attack unlike most of the people that randomly surface with a better ROI after fluking a week or two and then go back to shit quicksmart. Please spare me your response in the form of a video of a tout telling us about the secret cabal of 'sharps 'that play 6-figures per play and who are all pulling in 7-figures a year, that you could join by just paying him a few hundred of your dollars a week.

I play mid-hundred units because I feel it's the best spot for my psychological wellbeing. I've worked in fields where I've played financial instruments that've had multiple-thousands on the line in the blink of an eye, and I'd rather pull a comfortable income from it than have to shit myself every time variance swings against me.
Don't get salty with me, I'm just giving you constructive criticism, you should be thanking me. Like I said, you're results are pretty good, 19% ROI on ML is impressive. But the way you post your plays looks really sloppy and amateur, posting over a dozen plays every fight card, it's messy. Betting on props makes you look like you're an amateur, these are just facts.

If you're as good as you think you are then why not clean up the why you play, be more professional and take your bankroll to the next level, focus more on ML. Betting on props is more small players (not including totals), the only books that offer props are the books that limit players and it's not something you can do long term if you bet thousands of dollars every play.

Also good luck selling your bets on betmma, no one buys anything on there lol. Selling bets in general is a hard thing to do, even harder since its MMA, very niche market. It's a business thats over run with frauds which means the buyers are suckers. I've spent so much time looking for a tout for other sports and I've never found one that I've wanted to commit too, almost no one is as good as they claim to be and thats disapointing. Who cares about making $14 selling bet packs and emailing dummies when you could be making 6 figures a year betting on ML.
 
Don't get salty with me, I'm just giving you constructive criticism, you should be thanking me. Like I said, you're results are pretty good, 19% ROI on ML is impressive. But the way you post your plays looks really sloppy and amateur, posting over a dozen plays every fight card, it's messy. Betting on props makes you look like you're an amateur, these are just facts.

If you're as good as you think you are then why not clean up the why you play, be more professional and take your bankroll to the next level, focus more on ML. Betting on props is more small players (not including totals), the only books that offer props are the books that limit players and it's not something you can do long term if you bet thousands of dollars every play.

Also good luck selling your bets on betmma, no one buys anything on there lol. Selling bets in general is a hard thing to do, even harder since its MMA, very niche market. It's a business thats over run with frauds which means the buyers are suckers. I've spent so much time looking for a tout for other sports and I've never found one that I've wanted to commit too, almost no one is as good as they claim to be and thats disapointing. Who cares about making $14 selling bet packs and emailing dummies when you could be making 6 figures a year betting on ML.
True. Biggest UFC touts are semi-frauds like BFP and Luca who package everything as being 'free money', rather than as just being their opinion. I like the extra guaranteed income from tip-sales, along with having a platform to work off for other opportunities. I've got directly bankrolled by a few clients based off Betmma, which makes me a lot more than actually selling tips does.
 
Everyone used to hate on Fury for being a fraud but honestly he's probably better than a lot of the touts that are around at the moment, at least Fury constantly grew his profit. I find it hard to believe you make any sort of real money off selling $14 bet packs on betmma and IDK what you mean you got bankrolled by clients, you saying you found investors on betmma that have given you thousands of dollars? LOL cmon
 
Back
Top