UFC 231 Holloway vs Ortega

Might have to take stabs at these big dogs Out of principle

Clark +465
Nelson +400

Clark decision near +800 is pretty absurd price for a college wrestling champ (lower division though) against a European kickboxer. We don't know how far training at ATT has gotten Rakic but his TDD looked terrible against Barroso. Worth a stab in my book.
 
Fight doesn't go distance was appealing to me, both guys are finishers.

I'm actually contemplating just taking the over(-170) and taking a shot on OAM by KO(+1000). I just dont see Burns finishing him. Would appreciate more discussion on ths fight, we prob got 20 pages worth of Holloway-Ortega, there are other fights on the card guys lol.
 
Clark decision near +800 is pretty absurd price for a college wrestling champ (lower division though) against a European kickboxer. We don't know how far training at ATT has gotten Rakic but his TDD looked terrible against Barroso. Worth a stab in my book.
Speaking of absurd, just checked the Holloway itd and rds 1-5 lines

Wow.
 
The fact that there is so much back and forth arguing in this thread and very little agreement of anyone who is a "lock" to win means the matchmakers did their job well and it will be an awesome card for fans. I expect some very close decisions and some violent clashes on both sides that will end when the first solid punch lands. I didn't go too heavy on anyone on this card for that reason. Good luck to all.
 
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Might have to take stabs at these big dogs Out of principle

Clark +465
Nelson +400
Ikr I ended up taking nelson .5u at +475 watched a few fights, he has serviceable kickboxing and decent gnp against the bums I watched. Personally I think he will get subed from the bottom but worth a shot at that price
 
I'm actually contemplating just taking the over(-170) and taking a shot on OAM by KO(+1000). I just dont see Burns finishing him. Would appreciate more discussion on ths fight, we prob got 20 pages worth of Holloway-Ortega, there are other fights on the card guys lol.
Close fight. I bet too many units on Mercier (4.98). I should have bet less units and played Mercier via decision & goes the distance prop. Then again if Mercier wins inside the distance I guess it was the right call. Bet mercier at different times, different days. Didn't realize just how many units of my bankroll I had on him until today when I was looking over my various plays. Rookie mistake. Even if Mercier wins I will not let that happen again.
 
Ikr I ended up taking nelson .5u at +475 watched a few fights, he has serviceable kickboxing and decent gnp against the bums I watched. Personally I think he will get subed from the bottom but worth a shot at that price
Gunnar subbed from the bottom by Cowboy Oliveira? That's as unlikely as the Octagon falling apart during the fight forcing a No Contest.
 
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I'm actually contemplating just taking the over(-170) and taking a shot on OAM by KO(+1000). I just dont see Burns finishing him. Would appreciate more discussion on ths fight, we prob got 20 pages worth of Holloway-Ortega, there are other fights on the card guys lol.
I like the under a lot here. Burns can crack, is a higher level submission grappler, and OAM could also catch him when he gasses.
 
Cowboy goes balls to the wall from bell to bell. I think he will blitz Gunnar and test his chin within the first 90 seconds. Didn't like the way Nelson got clipped in the Ponz fight. Originally thought the eyepoke had a bigger effect, but Ponz just caught him clean. Gunnar's inactivity is a bit worrisome too, 2-2 in the past 3 years, compared to Cowboy who is 7-2 in same time period. Only thing I'm worried about Cowboy is how LaFlare controlled him on the ground. but Laflare is much better at position, while Nelson is better at submissions. reflecting back, stupid bet on Cowboy at -120, but +money is value. I think Cowboy finishes him in the 2nd after losing the first round.


I hate that eye poke talk. Nelson got starched by Ponz because he threw a lead left hook that was wide as hell and Ponz countered with a straight right hand. Eye poke talk is just excuses. It was a great read by Ponz. The lead right hand is a straighter punch and gets there faster. The fight was over at that point really. He lost because he was up against a technically better striker with a high IQ. Cowboy throws that same lead right hand so I hope Nelson has learned from the Ponz fight.
 
Gunnar subbed from the bottom by Cowboy Oliveira? That's as unlikely as the Octagon falling apart during the fight forcing a No Contest.
Think he was talking about Kyle Nelson
 
Gunnar subbed from the bottom by Cowboy Oliveira? That's as unlikely as the Octagon falling apart during the fight forcing a No Contest.
Nelson getting subbed from the bottom by Ferreira. He is good on top by has lazy hands on the mat and flapping round
*Oh yea Kyle Nelson not Gunner
 
Shhiieett my god... santos looks huge. Now i think i maybe wrong about manuwa. Ive never seen santos so thick.
 
I was wondering how in the world could Anders now be an underdog...then I saw the Post Your Bets thread and almost everyone is on Elias for some reason. Is Anders coming off an injury or a bad weight cut or something? Otherwise I'm thinking Anders is gonna starch him early.
 
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