The Trenches, Episode 30 Poll: What fighter had a bigger fall from grace?

What fighter had a bigger fall from grace?


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So? She still had a huge huge fall from grace. Just because she's doing something else now doesnt mean it didn't happen.
Headlining the biggest event in combat sports isn't a fall from grace.
 
She lost fair and square.

TJ attempted to drop to another class he had no business fighting in, lost, vacated his belt suddenly, popped, then had previous samples tested which proved he'd been cheating for a while.

To TJ cutting edge sport's science was code for presumably undetectable PED.
It was still a fall from grace. She was huge, absolutely fucking huge, way bigger than TJ ever was. She was the third most googled person in 2015. Her fall was bigger.
 
Dude. Just because she recovered and is now a fake wrestler does not mean she didn't have a huge fall from grace from the UFC.
Or not, since she's an even bigger star now and makes millions wrestling part time.
 
Or not, since she's an even bigger star now and makes millions wrestling part time.
......your logic is baffling to me. She had a huge fall from grace in the UFC. This is fact. It wasn't so long ago, do you really not remember how insane that shit was at the time? Just because she's a successful pro wrestler does not negate that what happened did indeed happen. At the time, it was a huge fall from grace. The fact that she rebounded later is irrelevant to the initial downturn.
 
......your logic is baffling to me. She had a huge fall from grace in the UFC. This is fact. It wasn't so long ago, do you really not remember how insane that shit was at the time? Just because she's a successful pro wrestler does not negate that what happened did indeed happen. At the time, it was a huge fall from grace. The fact that she rebounded later is irrelevant to the initial downturn.
Read the thread title, brah.
 
Tim Sylvia's was pretty bad. From being UFC champion to being knocked out by a 50 year old boxer in 9 seconds.
 
Barao. Dude went from undefeated Champ in 30 fights to the early prelims. Its way too early to see how far TJ falls.
 
Perhaps if TJ wasnt juiced to the grills, barão would still be champ. People overlook the mental aspect of the game, and its the most important part.
Barão felt invincible and so had the confidence to throw anything and win. People had lost before even stepping in. Almost like Fedor and Anderson Silva.
 
lol @ Mods using Rondas WWE presence as a reason she didn't fall from grace. Pathetic.
 
Of the three in the poll I'd choose Renan, he went from absolute stud with an impeccable record to ZERO on the prelims in one fight

On the whole I'd have to choose Mark Kerr, and then Roger Huerta
 
TJ, for now.

Could easily become McGregor though, depending on what happens regarding the rape case.
 
Too many to count, but off the top of my head: War Machine, Lee Murray, Mayhem Miller, Lavar Johnson, Evan Tanner, etc
 
My first instinct was Hendricks, but he sort of faded into obscurity. TJ crashed and burned getting battered by a flyweight and stripped of his belt in an era of high profile media coverage.
 
Miguel Angel Torres. Dude started out fighting for peanuts in bars. Pretty sure he's back there, and losing. His decline seemed sudden after running the WEC for as long as he did.
 
BJ Penn I'd say.

He went from the beast to being stopped in back to back to back fights, testing positive while accusing others and being charged for domestic.
 


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Hendricks because not only did he drop as a fighter and not be able to make weight anymore, but he also has a failed steakhouse as well.
 
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