Media StyleBender emotional addressing Auckland crowd

[GoshiShun17]

if i used the N word against a random black person you would be offended too. Fact remains he calls a white person cracker ( without any reason ) which is a racial slur and that makes him part of the problem. He is as racist as the people he is condemning.

First of all, I don't speak for all black people, just myself. I would not be offended. But then again, context helps.

Second the two words don't really have the same history. But whatever.

"The problem" is NOT people using racial slurs or even people being "racist" because that is something out of our control. The problem is that the judicial system has a proven history to punish colored people more harshly and not punish police at all for these types of situations.

 

[MMAProfessional]

Yeah I grew up in Newark NJ so I've seen my fair share of ignorant shit. There is no excuse for it. The type of shit pisses me off.

Even though there are posters in this thread saying shit I disagree with, ultimately what I am not for is this "us against them" mentality. That is what truly keeps things fucked up and ultimately I don't feel like that is what Adesanya is pushing but the opposite.

That's the thing. This is a problem with the police and justice system but is becoming a race war. Every white person I know if for BLM and think what happened and is happening is terrible. But for those who aren't for it crap like this just give racist people ammo.

 

[Cindynice420]

No black person ever tried
to make me comfortable
I must not be white enough

 

[noizer]

First of all, I don't speak for all black people, just myself. I would not be offended. But then again, context helps.

Second the two words don't really have the same history. But whatever.

"The problem" is NOT people using racial slurs or even people being "racist" because that is something out of our control. The problem is that the judicial system has a proven history to punish colored people more harshly and not punish police at all for these types of situations.

My point is that change has to start within oneself.

If Adesanya really wants to make a change for the better he should start by stop using racist slurs himself.

 

[Lyoto Cerrone]

Adesanya calling about racism by calling who appear to be an Arab New Zealander "cracker."

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just adding more fuels to the fire.

Supporting reverse racism is just as bad as racism itself.

People can dislike Jones for his personal problems, but the fact is that Jones handled this situation much better than Adesanya did.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but reverse racism =/= racism. That's why, despite George Floyd pleading for his life for several minutes, that officer decided to kill him and no one intervened.

The differencece is night and day, with reverse-racism, some thugs might beat you up or shot when a riot gets chaotic. Racism - the government will murder you, have the coroner say it wasn't asphyxiation, and then appease the media by chastising the murder before acquitting them on all charges.

 

[micentay666]

You can never end racism because it's someone's opinion all the marching, protesting, shooting, looting, burning will never get to the root because this is a governments agenda. Racism is only significant if the people accept the titles that are put in place to separate us. Izzy is a POS always wants to piggyback on the next wave you can hear on the mic he could barely get his stories straight to get the protesters behind him. These Celebrity's and News/ Social media outlets are pouring the gasoline to a fire they created.

Police Brutality I'm 100% against but real cases wouldn't get the nationwide attention as these "staged events " put in place for the public to digest and cause conflict. BLW only show up when someone gets "killed" on video bringing nationwide attention they never show up to attack the real issues in the hood.

 

[markg171]

Didn't know Minneapolis was in New Zealand.

The cop was immediately fired, charged with murder within days, and his wife even filed to divorce him. In what way is the system not working that requires this? Not a single person has defended what happened.

None of this has anything to do Floyd. I can't believe I'm saying this, but listen to Jones, not Izzyy.

 

[GoshiShun17]

Didn't know Minneapolis was in New Zealand.

The cop was immediately fired, charged with murder within days, and his wife even filed to divorce him. In what way is the system not working that requires this? Not a single person has defended what happened.

None of this has anything to do Floyd. I can't believe I'm saying this, but listen to Jones, not Izzyy.

I'm 100% against the riots. I don't hear Adesanya telling people to riot either so I don't understand you saying listen to Jon and not Izzy.

More importantly, there is a BIG difference between being charged with murder and being convicted. Most of the officers in similar cases were not convicted. With all the pressure and attention this is getting some may think that there is no way he won't get convinced but it would not surprise me because it would not be the first time I believed the officer would be convicted.

 

[TheLinguist]

I'm not mad. I couldn't give a fuck if he called you a cracker or some one called me a n I gg. Er. It doesn't mean shit.

The real issue is that the police continue to kill and abuse with no punishment. And now you have these fucking fools in the streets diverting attention from that by destroying innocent people's lively hood.

But if someone wants to speak put or protest peacefully then I don't understand why assholes feel the need to talk shit.

Racism is real and will likely never go away completely. I don't worry about that. What is fake is your outrage that he said "cracker".

Agreed with what you wrote but blacks being racist also needs to stop, no fake outrage here just bewildered it’s 2020 and racism still exists.

 

[Fenn]

Here's a video of my city. The women trying to stop them lives in an apartment above and asked them to stop because people live there.

TBH, to the people beating on the old woman, I'd feel zero remorse taking a hammer to each of their toes. Then Steel bat to the knees. And back to a hammer for the fingers, and back of the hands, until the hands we're good for nothing, and they had to be fed because they could no longer do things for themselves.

Zero remorse. No moral high ground - simply wouldn't care.

 

[TheJohnnyWalkerEra]

His big oppression example was that occasionally he feels people might be nervous when he steps into an elevator with them

 

[thotboy]

This Thread is such a shitshow lmao, mods it's time to lock it and delete any thread related to what's happening in the US right now, this is not a political forum. Keep it about the sport, most of you are embarrassing yourselves.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

His big oppression example was that occasionally he feels people might be nervous when he steps into an elevator with them

He spoken many times in depth about how he was harassed for being black when he was growing up and how all that harassment is what made him seek out self-defense and martial arts in the first place.

 

[Juan Bombadil]

I’m pretty sure this dude is on estrogen

 

[TheJohnnyWalkerEra]

He spoken many times in depth about how he was harassed for being black when he was growing up and how all that harassment is what made him seek out self-defense and martial arts in the first place.

Show me all these times he talks about being harassed for being black

I heard him say he was picked on as a kid but he didn't mention anything about race

 

[Fedorisbest]

Here's a video of my city. The women trying to stop them lives in an apartment above and asked them to stop because people live there.

Thanks for posting that. I live an hour away from there. The news media won't show that clip on tv

 

[Deleted member 571517]

“I didn’t have a choice. If I had a choice though, I’d still be black.” - Platinum Mike Perry

LOL

 

[bubbleboyjones]

Can someone explain to me what is happening ? I know some cops killed an innocent black guy and that they want justice for him but why is everyone destroying shit on the streets ? i seen a video where they killed a guy trying to defend his shop. This shit is crazy. Some of these people act like animals. if this happened in my country, all the cops that killed that guy would be imprisoned and wont be able to do their job ever again. I bet my house that if the same thing that happened to floyd happend to a white guy, no one would give a fuck. I agree with that all races are equal but why the fuck destroy the whole city. If they got problems with cops then bother cops but not innocent people

White guy and black guy worked as part-time security guard at the same place. Later on black guy runs into white guy who is on duty as a cop because the black guy tried to pass a counterfeit money. White guy kills black guy while on duty as a cop gets with no justification(most likely motivation was from some incident knowing each other). Protests then started as police brutality and then turned into a larger anarchist movement in urban areas involving mostly Gen Z and younger millennial of multiple races(highly black but also lots of white and hispanic).


Make no mistakes this is not about police brutality at this point since on a whole police are more docile today than in anytime in U.S. history. This is a fact. This is basically a Gen Z and younger millennial anarchist movement at this point with a cover-up of police brutality. There are valid police problems but this is being overblown and we are getting to a dangerous point of society collapse in certain areas. Guns sales are going trough the roof and if this isn't squashed we are going to have a civil war at hand as people are now fighting back against the Gen Z and younger millennial anarchists.

 

[markg171]

I don't hear Adesanya telling people to riot either so I don't understand you saying listen to Jon and not Izzy.

Jon publicly denounced what happened. The difference is he isn't gathering hundreds of people in person and getting them emotional and riled up, giving the platform and surge for the thugs who may not be just wanting to peacefully state what they're feeling. Which in today's day doesn't need to be done in public as seen by those like Jon who have conveyed their thoughts online.

Jon is going around taking down Antifa, cleaning up broken glass and graffiti, boarding up stores, etc. in his city only because there are people using these gatherings as an excuse to do whatever they want. They only have the platform to do so because of people like Izzy and others gathering them.

Go home. Leave only the rioters outside. They'll either go home to or be dealt with.

More importantly, there is a BIG difference between being charged with murder and being convicted. Most of the officers in similar cases were not convicted. With all the pressure and attention this is getting some may think that there is no way he won't get convinced but it would not surprise me because it would not be the first time I believed the officer would be convicted.

So protest, riot, loot, whatever if he gets off. You don't do it before hand when so far the system has worked. The LA riots only occurred when the cops got off, not when they killed Rodney King.

There is not a "broken system" when someone gets fired, charged with murder, literally everybody denounces the action taken as wrong, and even the guy's wife divorces him over it. There is nothing to protest right now, and people are ruining entire cities because they simply have the platform being handed to them to do so.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

Show me all these times he talks about being harassed for being black

I heard him say he was picked on as a kid but he didn't mention anything about race

He touches on it in almost every interview. They should be timestamped