News Coronavirus Mega Thread (Election Edition)

[Graves The Elder]

You're not quite as sharp as you'd like to believe. No angst...Wu Wei doesn't exclude expression.

uh yea
I know your type.
gotta have the last word, the shut down comment
I get it.
tell yourself whatever you must to believe you somehow 'won' the exchange.

 

[fingercuffs]

I fought out of Erie, PA for a couple of years so I know a lot of people from there as well as Philidelphia & other areas of the state. And you're not going to find many Mensa candidates from there in my estimation.

I have bugger all knowledge with Pennsylvania so I will take your word for it
Like to go though.

 

[sweetviolenturg]

I have bugger all knowledge with Pennsylvania so I will take your word for it
Like to go though.

I really shouldn't put down the entire state's population like that though, should I? There are actually plenty of very intelligent people from PA that I know. But its rural areas have a high concentration of hillbillies, hayseeds & half-wits. All of whom I would bet on being COVID-19 "truthers" who wouldn't be caught dead in a mask.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Some notes from the Spanish Flu

https://www.history.com/news/1918-pandemic-spanish-flu-censorship

--“Basically, it gets called the ‘Spanish flu’ because the Spanish media did their job,” says Lora Vogt, curator of education at the National WWI Museum and Memorial in Kansas City, Missouri. In Great Britain and the United States—which has a long history of blaming other countries for disease—the outbreak was also known as the “Spanish grip” or “Spanish Lady.”--

Historians aren’t actually sure where the 1918 flu strain began, but the first recorded cases were at a U.S. Army camp in Kansas in March 1918. By the end of 1919, it had infected up to a third of the world’s population and killed some 50 million people. It was the worst flu pandemic in recorded history, and it was likely exacerbated by a combination of censorship, skepticism and denial among warring nations.

Other newspapers and public officials claimed during the flu’s first wave in the spring and early summer of 1918 that it wasn’t a serious threat. The Illustrated London News wrote that the 1918 flu was “so mild as to show that the original virus is becoming attenuated by frequent transmission.” Sir Arthur Newsholme, chief medical officer of the British Local Government Board, suggested it was unpatriotic to be concerned with the flu rather than the war, Arnold says.

In April 1919, the flu even disrupted the Paris Peace Conference when President Wilson came down with a debilitating case. As when the British prime minister had contracted the flu back in September, Wilson’s administration hid the news from the public. His personal doctor instead told the press the president had caught a cold from the Paris rain."

 

[genecop]

https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/world-death-clock.asp

on average 56,000,000 deaths per year pre Covid..
That’s 4.700,000 deaths per month
As of today we are at 46,000,000 deaths
Two months left....what’s the total expected at this rate?

 

[icffedor]

smh, this coextant fella sounds uber aggro.
must have had his name misspelled in foam on his non fat, soy, rainforest friendly latte this morning.
but fear is in fact a soul killer.
cuffs is cool though.
(doesn't drag her teeth, if yer git me nod)

Aww cute another one of cuff's flirt buddies

 

[icffedor]

https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/world-death-clock.asp

on average 56,000,000 deaths per year pre Covid..
That’s 4.700,000 deaths per month
As of today we are at 46,000,000 deaths
Two months left....what’s the total expected at this rate?

Herd immunity gonna kill us all

 

[Nimrod]

https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/world-death-clock.asp

on average 56,000,000 deaths per year pre Covid..
That’s 4.700,000 deaths per month
As of today we are at 46,000,000 deaths
Two months left....what’s the total expected at this rate?

But theres been a pandemic...!?!!?!??! how can this be? oh yeah because weve had lockdowns and masks..

 

[SugarKrok]

Increased risk of covid-19 is marginal. Increased risk of other viral or bacterial infections is significant, a warm moist mask is a nice breeding ground for a bunch of germs that you don't want to be inhaling.

That makes sense. I had a really bad sore throat for the first time in almost two decades.

My physiotherapist told me that covid destroys your organs and decreases your lifespan even if tou have no symptoms. I hope that's not the case, but even if true I probably wouldn't become more cautious.

I guess I'm at a point where I just don't care and really want to think about it. Life is rough enough without thinking maybe you caught something from a guy walking down the street and will die in a week.

 

[SugarKrok]

When you're breathing in, particles are being drawn from the air to the mask's outer surface - which could include particles carrying the virus. And when you touch doorknobs and such, you could potentially transfer viral particles on that outer surface as well if you touch or adjust your mask.

One workaround is using the fact that the virus is only viable on surfaces for a few days. There has been a few scaremonger headlines implying the virus can live for a month on surfaces, but in reality it can no longer be cultured (i.e. it's dead - not viable). After using a mask for a day, you can put it in a paper bag and leave it alone for around a week so that time kills the virus. All you need is a rotation of about 10 masks.

I bought a pack of fifty yesterday.

 

[Nimrod]

 

[SugarKrok]

I stopped the video at the 5min mark. What's the point? Is he saying people aren't qurantine the right amount of time because the shedding time is longer than the cdc generic 14 day number? And in that respect testing has actually served to give people a false sense of security ?

 

[Nimrod]

I stopped the video at the 5min mark. What's the point? Is he saying people aren't qurantine the right amount of time because the shedding time is longer than the cdc generic 14 day number? And in that respect testing has actually served to give people a false sense of security ?

This is the problem.. people don't want to understand. just make assumptions.. RIP humans

 

[dirtypablo]

I stopped the video at the 5min mark. What's the point? Is he saying people aren't qurantine the right amount of time because the shedding time is longer than the cdc generic 14 day number? And in that respect testing has actually served to give people a false sense of security ?

No, just that testing shouldn't be thought of as a simple positive or negative, but rather a graduated system - you have no detectable virus, you have some detectable virus but it's so minimal you're probably not contagious and so on up to covid is pouring out of your ears. The idea being that someone who tests positive but with a low amount probably doesn't need to be contact traced or held in a hospital.

I'm not sure people being held in hospitals after they are better is really an issue, and just because you tested positive with a low amount today doesn't mean you shouldn't be contact traced - we don't know how contagious you were three days ago.

One thing is for sure, this whole thing has shown that the average person cannot be trusted to act responsibly, or to trust the limitations of their cognitive abilities with regards to how well they can understand and interpret scientific data, and that they should listen to experts. If we had a graded system, these same morons would be dismissing it because of some irrelevant study their favorite ct youtuber cites. 'Ya I tested positive, but my value was only x and even though the cdc says I'm contagious, Jim on YouTube says I'm not so I'm going with him!'

 

[Nimrod]

No, just that testing shouldn't be thought of as a simple positive or negative, but rather a graduated system - you have no detectable virus, you have some detectable virus but it's so minimal you're probably not contagious and so on up to covid is pouring out of your ears. The idea being that someone who tests positive but with a low amount probably doesn't need to be contact traced or held in a hospital.

I'm not sure people being held in hospitals after they are better is really an issue, and just because you tested positive with a low amount today doesn't mean you shouldn't be contact traced - we don't know how contagious you were three days ago.

One thing is for sure, this whole thing has shown that the average person cannot be trusted to act responsibly, or to trust the limitations of their cognitive abilities with regards to how well they can understand and interpret scientific data, and that they should listen to experts. If we had a graded system, these same morons would be dismissing it because of some irrelevant study their favorite ct youtuber cites. 'Ya I tested positive, but my value was only x and even though the cdc says I'm contagious, Jim on YouTube says I'm not so I'm going with him!'

or it could be mean that governments and health authorities cannot be trusted and act irresponsibly and are using this test to manipulate figures and statistics to make people not understand scientific data.. if we had a graded system we would know exactly how dangerous and infectious this virus is so could have a response that matches.. then people would actually trust what there being told..

 

[Cole train]

Heard on the radio that spain and italy are getting wrecked again

Spain broke 1 mil infections

 

[dirtypablo]

Heard on the radio that spain and italy are getting wrecked again

Spain broke 1 mil infections

Yep. While the US response has been terrible, I think a lot of the snooting from the rest of the world ignores the size of the US and the fact that we've been dealing with multiple different waves in locations hundreds or thousands of miles apart. X European country got it under control, why can't the US? Well, the US is 50+ distinct population centers whereas X country is 2 population centers. It comes in waves, and we're all getting our asses kicked this winter, most countries who think they had it under control included. My guess is that the next 4 months will probably be the worst of the entire thing.

 

[Strychnine]

What's happening in Europe is crazy. Italy went from having around 200 new cases per day in the summer to 21,000 new daily cases today. Seems like there's a seasonality element at play.

Yeah, I agree...

If we keep our heads, social distance, wash our hands, don't touch our faces, and wear masks, I hope that we'll see a decline at best and steady at worst.

I hope.

 

[dirtypablo]

https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/world-death-clock.asp

on average 56,000,000 deaths per year pre Covid..
That’s 4.700,000 deaths per month
As of today we are at 46,000,000 deaths
Two months left....what’s the total expected at this rate?

But theres been a pandemic...!?!!?!??! how can this be? oh yeah because weve had lockdowns and masks..

or it could be mean that governments and health authorities cannot be trusted and act responsibly and are using this test to manipulate figures and statistics to make people not understand scientific data.. if we had a graded system we would know exactly how dangerous and infectious this virus is so could have a response that matches.. then people would actually trust what there being told..

Here we have someone post a death clock - this clock simply takes the average number of people who die each year, then breaks it down to average number of people who die every second, and uses that to give a live stream view of the number of people who are expected to die each moment. This clock is not based on any actual death counts, just a generic, on average, this is how many people are dying right now. And yet, you two goofballs think it somehow shows that there hasn't been a huge increase in deaths this year - in virtually every country on earth where this is tracked, there has been a huge increase in deaths, in excess of deaths attributed to covid.

I said that things need to be made as simple as possible because people jump to conclusions based on information they don't understand, and literally on the same page here is a perfect example of that.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Yep. While the US response has been terrible, I think a lot of the snooting from the rest of the world ignores the size of the US and the fact that we've been dealing with multiple different waves in locations hundreds or thousands of miles apart. X European country got it under control, why can't the US? Well, the US is 50+ distinct population centers whereas X country is 2 population centers. It comes in waves, and we're all getting our asses kicked this winter, most countries who think they had it under control included. My guess is that the next 4 months will probably be the worst of the entire thing.

This is why I stopped caring about any numbers except whats happening here in NC. Why should I be concerned with what is happening 2000 miles away?