Law France - All electronics must now carry a label rating their repairability level

[MicroBrew]

Good !!

America should follow suit. Companies like Apple and others make it deliberately hard to repair their products either by the end-user or by 3rd parties.

I hope the US can force the auto-makers to carry such labels. If any of you like working on cars/trucks you know that those plastic fasteners that secure body panels in place, often times break when trying to remove the panel. This happens even with the correct pry tool.

I have cleaned / replaced / repaired laptop parts for a long time, and with many brands it is a PITA trying to open it up. A lot of consumer goods seem like they are intentionally made to make it hard for the end-user to repair.

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From Socialist France
France will begin labeling electronics with repairability ratings in January

https://www.gsmarena.com/france_wil...pairability_ratings_in_january-news-46452.php

 

[Natural Order]

Just further greedy extensions of ideas relating to planned obsolescence.

Good to see some progress in making these practices more visible to the public.

 

[loyalyolayal]

Awesome news. France is killing it.

 

[Crom Cruach]

Just curious but how do they assess the repairability rating.

 

[Sisyphos]

I still remember when Apple forced an update that contained basically malware that made older devices unueasable and forced people to update.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/7/21127984/apple-iphone-batterygate-slowdown-batteries-french-fine

Tech companies are scum.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

I try to fix stuff and these plastic parts always break. I just ignore it when possible. My laptop is held by screws and some plastic and the plastic is mostly gone after I opened it up to change the fan but it works.

 

[Krallang]

Good !!

America should follow suit. Companies like Apple and others make it deliberately hard to repair their products either by the end-user or by 3rd parties.

I hope the US can force the auto-makers to carry such labels. If any of you like working on cars/trucks you know that those plastic fasteners that secure body panels in place, often times break when trying to remove the panel. This happens even with the correct pry tool.

I have cleaned / replaced / repaired laptop parts for a long time, and with many brands it is a PITA trying to open it up. A lot of consumer goods seem like they are intentionally made to make it hard for the end-user to repair.

--
From Socialist France
France will begin labeling electronics with repairability ratings in January

https://www.gsmarena.com/france_wil...pairability_ratings_in_january-news-46452.php

I agree, not to toot my own horn but I'm pretty adept at soldering. From headsets to keyboards to the switch on a floor heater I've ran across multiple electronics that essentially destroy themselves when opened. Most electronics are designed this way nowadays.

Disagree with body panels though, a lot of time people try to cut corners. The fasteners tend to squeeze from the back so it may require removing the bumper or inner fender to get to.

 

[AWilder]

I still remember when Apple forced an update that contained basically malware that made older devices unueasable and forced people to update.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/7/21127984/apple-iphone-batterygate-slowdown-batteries-french-fine

Tech companies are scum.

Yup, I had an iphone 4, iirc, that my work gave me. It worked great until the new iphone 5 came out. It was painfully obvious that their firmware "updates" were crippling my older iphone. Haven't used an iphone, unless provided by work, since. Not that android is perfect, but that kind of premeditated abuse of consumers turned me off apple completely.

 

[brother mouzone]

I still remember when Apple forced an update that contained basically malware that made older devices unueasable and forced people to update.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/7/21127984/apple-iphone-batterygate-slowdown-batteries-french-fine

Tech companies are scum.

I remember that update. It basically made my 4s lose its battery life by 50% overnight.

I only updated because I needed to update to get the latest espn fantasy baseball app. Guess what, even when I updated it the app was still requiring a newer phone version than the 4s could use. It was fucking bullshit.

Turned to high end android phones and never looked back.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

I still remember when Apple forced an update that contained basically malware that made older devices unueasable and forced people to update.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/7/21127984/apple-iphone-batterygate-slowdown-batteries-french-fine

Tech companies are scum.

Do they even need to go this far? I figured locking the batteries was phone companies way of ensuring you always have to get a new phone. Pretty much every phone I have had I could've kept for way longer if the battery didn't start going to hell and there was a way to change them. Never used an iPhone so not sure if there was a point where you could change the battery.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Of course they're intentionally difficult to replace. Makes demand for the new product higher.

Who here is old to remember when you could just walk into a cell phone store and ask for a new battery? It was as simple as popping one back piece off and changing batteries like in a kid's toy. Fuck changing a battery now is obnoxious

 

[Renard]

Good move.

Some tech YTbers did tests on the newest iphone. The phone's internal components are paired up with one another. So even if you try to replace a component with another genuine component from a different iphone of the same gen, because you don't have the encryption keys to pair them up with the other hardware of that particular phone, the component won't work properly. It's all so that you're forced to send your phone to apple and pay an exorbitant fee because they're the only ones with the keys to pair the components together.

Apple did similar shenanigans with their computers. They make deals with manufacturers so that the particular components used in their computers can't be sold to the public. So again you're forced to send the computer to apple and pay an exorbitant fee for something that could be repaired for 50$ and less in many cases. Apple basically goes out of their way to make sure as many products as possible end up in the landfill.

The consumer is part of the problem though. People get screwed over by Apple over and over again, but instead of being angry they just do exactly what apple wanted and they buy a brand new product.

 

[Sisyphos]

Yup, I had an iphone 4, iirc, that my work gave me. It worked great until the new iphone 5 came out. It was painfully obvious that their firmware "updates" were crippling my older iphone. Haven't used an iphone, unless provided by work, since. Not that android is perfect, but that kind of premeditated abuse of consumers turned me off apple completely.

Apple literally has created a business model where people buy $1000+ phones on a yearly basis now.
It's honestly insane. They're quite literally thieves banking on people's addictions to their latest tech.

 

[Handsome Bruce]

Apple literally has created a business model where people buy $1000+ phones on a yearly basis now.
It's honestly insane. They're quite literally thieves banking on people's addictions to their latest tech.

Every year retards actually line up for hours to get ripped off by the new iPhone.

 

[AWilder]

Apple literally has created a business model where people buy $1000+ phones on a yearly basis now.
It's honestly insane. They're quite literally thieves banking on people's addictions to their latest tech.

yeah i have a friend that unironically does this every year and posts all over his social media about it. i'd be embarrassed for him but some people have no shame.

 

[Sisyphos]

yeah i have a friend that unironically does this every year and posts all over his social media about it. i'd be embarrassed for him but some people have no shame.

The thing Apple did brilliantly is that they turned their brand into a status symbol.
So owning the latest Iphone is like showing up with the latest cologne or Armani Jacket to a lot of people.
These people will also love the attention they get from other people ("wow look at this cool guy, his phone, etc").

 

[EndlessCritic]

I still remember when Apple forced an update that contained basically malware that made older devices unueasable and forced people to update.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/7/21127984/apple-iphone-batterygate-slowdown-batteries-french-fine

Tech companies are scum.

If I wasn't rich I'd probably boycott Apple. Just disgusting.

(Actually I've never once purchased an Apple product for myself. But I've been using iphones for over five years because that's what my work gives me.)

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Good move.

Some tech YTbers did tests on the newest iphone. The phone's internal components are paired up with one another. So even if you try to replace a component with another genuine component from a different iphone of the same gen, because you don't have the encryption keys to pair them up with the other hardware of that particular phone, the component won't work properly. It's all so that you're forced to send your phone to apple and pay an exorbitant fee because they're the only ones with the keys to pair the components together.

Apple did similar shenanigans with their computers. They make deals with manufacturers so that the particular components used in their computers can't be sold to the public. So again you're forced to send the computer to apple and pay an exorbitant fee for something that could be repaired for 50$ and less in many cases. Apple basically goes out of their way to make sure as many products as possible end up in the landfill.

The consumer is part of the problem though. People get screwed over by Apple over and over again, but instead of being angry they just do exactly what apple wanted and they buy a brand new product.

See this is what Sherman Act was designed for, to protect the fucking consumer. I wish some administration would go back to protecting the consumer

 

[MicroBrew]

Just further greedy extensions of ideas relating to planned obsolescence.

Good to see some progress in making these practices more visible to the public.

For all the shit that conservatives give Western Europe for being 'socialist', they have plenty of protections fo workers and the common man.

I agree, not to toot my own horn but I'm pretty adept at soldering. From headsets to keyboards to the switch on a floor heater I've ran across multiple electronics that essentially destroy themselves when opened. Most electronics are designed this way nowadays.

Disagree with body panels though, a lot of time people try to cut corners. The fasteners tend to squeeze from the back so it may require removing the bumper or inner fender to get to.

Door panel trim fasteners, fender inner wall fastners etc.. And I used the appropriate automotive pry tool. Some fastners are specifically single use only, so will definitely break but there are others that are not mean to break but often times they still do.

 

[bobgeese]

Holy shit, that is probably the best thing I've read in 2020.


Will anything mass produced today even pass?