Political Betting Thread

Yeah I get your points and agree with half of it but I think the supposed accomplishments are overstated, and there's extremely valid points of criticism beside his personality.

Still strongly disagree that "no one would have handled it well". Yeah we have a lot of big cities. But even the cases per million are topped with rural states that didn't see mask mandates, stay-at-home orders, etc. We're not the only country with dense cities and lots of travel, and we basically do the worst. There was no national leadership on how to slow the spread or deal with those affected by closures. If he actually did help lead us through this, he could've become beloved in spite of all his other flaws. But he didn't, and turned what could've been a unifying issue in an election year into a divisive one. No one would've locked the virus out of our country, but virtually any competent politician could have done a better job than him and would've won another term.

I guess we can just agree to disagree. A virus which had already spread throughout major cities before it was even recognized that didn't have any way of testing for it on a broad, national scale was gripping our country. I live in NYC, I saw refrigerated trucks filled with dead bodies and heard about hospitals overrun with patients. There was no way on earth we were containing this thing.

Trump consistently downplayed the virus, then held stupid briefings where he said some idiotic shit but his Operation Warpspeed did cut through a ton of red tape in getting a vaccine delivered which he did in months not years. Yes I understand he didn't create the vaccine and that a United States company didn't develop it (well they did with the help of European scientists) but the way he approached the creation and the distribution of the vaccine should have been hailed as a victory. Trump was never going to be liked because he is an ASSHOLE and his accomplishments will always be overshadowed by that fact. I do not think there is a politician on this planet that would have saved the hundreds of thousands of lives because, at the end of the day, short of imposing marshal law on the entire country, the people of America want to be free. They don't want to wear masks, they want to do what they want to do. Trump empowered these people (another mis-step I think we can both agree on) and down played the severity of the disease.

My grandmother got CoVID after thanksgiving because the people around her simply didn't understand the virus.. They were ignorant of the disease because they hadn't seen what it can do for itself. I got CoVID this summer as well - it hits different when someone you know and care about gets it and has to be hospitalized.

A very good leader would try to bridge the gap between the people who think its a Chinese Virus Hoax and the people who understand its a very serious fucking disease so I think we are kind of agreeing without really agreeing.

Either way, my point is that covid would have sucked big balls with or without Trump and maybe he made it suck more balls or maybe he didn't. That's a hypothetical no one would really know. The other point I am making is that he's an asshole and his accomplishments will always be under-rated because of how big of an asshole he really is.
 
LMAO. Trump locked down travel to and from China on January 27. Two days later you had Nancy Pelosi going to China town in San Fran, telling the COUNTRY, on LIVE TV, Trump was a racist for closing the borders to China and that people should to eat Chinese food lol. And you have the audacity to claim Trump had a horrendous initial response to the Chinese Corona virus. {<jordan}

He didn't give AF about the virus. He still doesn't. The only reason he shut down travel from China was because he gets an erection sticking it to China. If it really was about protecting US citizens from the virus he would've shut down UK travel already with that new strain there.
 
Edited: I need to keep my word and speak maturely in here so let me correct myself:

I’m getting tired explaining the same things over and over but it’s necessary because ALL of you defending China have been misinformed intentionally to make your hatred of Trump justifiable while ignoring the reality.

Anyone that defends China is a propagandized NPC that gets their info from the MSM and has completely lost their ability to see and think critically.

China killed 40 million of their own people under Mao. That SAME regime is still in power. The fact you don’t know this OR believe it, demonstrates your brainwashing. There is no excuse to defend China here. They literally forced slave-labor situations that were so terrible, hundreds of Chinese citizens killed themselves by jumping out of windows at Foxconn and other tech manufacturers. The suicides became so great, they had to INSTALL ANTI-SUICIDE NETS. But SOME OF YOU IGNORE THAT, AND PARROT ORANGE MAN BAD like a good NPC. That was a decade ago when that came out.

China has imprisoned 2 million Uighur Muslims and is harvesting their organs in secret Over the last few years (not much of a secret anymore but the MSM refuses to cover it) They use Facial recognition software developed by Huawei to track and arrest ughur citizens. AND SOME OF YOU IGNORE THIS AND SCREECH ORANGE MAN BAD. It’s embarrassing how emotional every single anti-Trump person is. You’re so emotional about the Orange man, you literally turn a blind-eye towards some of the worst cases of human suffering and torture instituted by one of the largest and most corrupt governments in human history. That’s how emotional many of you are; Anderson Cooper & Rachel Maddow told you to hate Orange Man and you OBEY.

China developed the Corona virus and released it intentionally in Wuhan China. Chinese government officials literally welded the doors shut to the homes of people with Corona virus and y’all ignore that and call Trump a clown or a racist lol.

Chinese Nationalists have been caught trying to smuggle bio-weapons into our country before but you ignore that and call Trump a racist lol.

The fact that any of you defends China, shows how brainwashed you are. They literally kill, rape, torture, organ harvest, their own citizens while polluting our world on an unfathomable scale but sure, Trump closed our borders because he’s a racist lol.
 
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^ but other than that, they aint so bad.

My corollary to the eternal team america description of the world is that some assholes pretend to be pussies and trick the pussies into thinking that the dicks are responsible for all the shit in the world. But bc the dicks fuck both the assholes and the pussies, they can tell the difference between the two, and know who is shitting who.

This basically explains why so many pussies are upset with Trump, and why the assholes hate him so much.
 
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Interesting that Warnock went from the biggest underdog in the GA senate race a couple months ago to the biggest favorite on runoff day. Think I saw him around +250 in November, now at -185. And this is despite the polling being neck and neck.

Wonder what the reason for this is. Expectations of depressed turnout from Trump losing? Bettors genuinely thinking GA elections are rigged? The campaigns for republicans to boycott? Big voter mobilization efforts by dems in the state? Loeffler just generally sucking as a candidate?

I'd like to bet here but I'm still a little spooked by the big underperformance by congressional dems in November. I know a lot's happened in the past 2 months but it feels like anything can happen here.
 
Interesting that Warnock went from the biggest underdog in the GA senate race a couple months ago to the biggest favorite on runoff day. Think I saw him around +250 in November, now at -185. And this is despite the polling being neck and neck.

Wonder what the reason for this is. Expectations of depressed turnout from Trump losing? Bettors genuinely thinking GA elections are rigged? The campaigns for republicans to boycott? Big voter mobilization efforts by dems in the state? Loeffler just generally sucking as a candidate?

I'd like to bet here but I'm still a little spooked by the big underperformance by congressional dems in November. I know a lot's happened in the past 2 months but it feels like anything can happen here.


The last time I checked the Rs were favourites. Very interesting odds. I feel like betting the opposite way, but need to find out why they have shifted so much.
 
The last time I checked the Rs were favourites. Very interesting odds. I feel like betting the opposite way, but need to find out why they have shifted so much.
Haven't been following this race much, but my gut is that its bc Loefller is an idiot. That's the impression I have any way, but I think he is the value side, esp as Trump is getting behind them both.
 
Another thought if anyone's looking to make live plays. Remember the election night red mirage. It'll probably happen again. Meaning in-person votes that lean heavily republican will be counted first, and mail-ins will be counted later.

If you're looking to play Perdue/Loeffler, get your bets in ASAP. If you're looking to play Ossoff/Warnock, there might be a chance at getting some great dog lines later.

edit: might've been wrong lmao. but we'll see how this plays out. iirc back in November, Biden had an early lead that exploded to like a 6 pt Trump lead later that night till more mail-ins were counted
 
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That’s a wrap folks. Dems control all 3

Yup looks like this is over. GGs to this cycle, dem senate-control bettors probably breathing a huge sigh of relief with their money held for so long.

Funny seeing how the perception of results changed from November to now. We're basically calling it for dems while the republicans are still up in the tally. At this point on election night, Biden dropped to a big underdog in Georgia despite tickers giving him a slight edge in anticipation of the dem county dumps.
 
anyone catch those swings on the "Trump to complete 1st term" markets today? surprised the price went out so much thinking he'd leave before the 20th
 
anyone catch those swings on the "Trump to complete 1st term" markets today? surprised the price went out so much thinking he'd leave before the 20th

What are the odds now? Took a small stab on "no" yesterday but the line is gone from my bookie now.
 
I guess people are going to change their stance on Trump winning in 2024 ;)
 
What are the odds now? Took a small stab on "no" yesterday but the line is gone from my bookie now.

It shortened back to 1.07 now on betfair. But it hit 1.2 earlier and I heard 1.4 ish on some prediction sites
 
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