New KOTOR game rumored

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The developers of the mobile port of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic could be working on a new game in the series that's rumored to be in development.

As noted by Russian site DTF, Aspyr Media is currently recruiting for an unannounced AAA RPG, having previously developed ports for a number of old Star Wars games, bringing Knights of the Old Republic II to iOS and two of the Jedi Knight games to Nintendo Switch and PS4 in recent years. That's not much to go on by itself, but the site also notes that a large number of Bioware veterans who have left the company's Austin studio in recent years and have wound up at Aspyr.

This seems like the kind of game where gamers who have been begging for this game for years will simultaneously say “they’re just going to ruin the franchise“.
 
I never begged for KOTOR to be remade or even expanded upon. And yes they will ruin it.

Want to know how I know that? Because KOTOR was made in 2003. The company that made it doesn't exist anymore. The creative force behind it is gone. Even if you got every single person who worked on the original back in the same room, they wouldn't be able to make another respectable KOTOR game because their lives, and creative synergy with each other and others, has grown and changed. They could make something good, but it would have to be different, and not KoToR, and probably not even Star Wars.
 
Wow. Kotor was that long ago. Kotor was a blast. If someone did a Kotor like Fallout, that would be amazing. Kotor was great because of the stories and it just abandoning movie cannon. Honestly, a movie on Kotor would be better than any of the newer Star Wars movies with the exception maybe of Han Solo and Rogue One. I really liked Solo in spite of it getting some crap.
 
I never begged for KOTOR to be remade or even expanded upon. And yes they will ruin it.

Want to know how I know that? Because KOTOR was made in 2003. The company that made it doesn't exist anymore. The creative force behind it is gone. Even if you got every single person who worked on the original back in the same room, they wouldn't be able to make another respectable KOTOR game because their lives, and creative synergy with each other and others, has grown and changed. They could make something good, but it would have to be different, and not KoToR, and probably not even Star Wars.
Holy pessimism
 
I'd certainly play it, but I would try to keep my expectations low. Larian is the only dev who has created party-based RPGs in the last decade that are even close to as good as the Bioware games from 2003-2010.

Edit: tyranny and pillars of eternity are good, but not close to being on the same level as KOTOR, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age Origins imo.
 
Yeah this has been about the dozenth rumor about a KOTOR remake/reboot/sequel.

Some say its a remake of the classic.
Some say its KOTOR 3.
Some say its actually a The High Republic game (yes, I'm serious).

As for those who are saying 'They'll just ruin it,' that's a risk within every new Star Wars product. It all depends on who's working on it - meaning what development team and who are the writers (wokeness).

As for the possibilities of what development team is remaking the classic KOTOR, I have a new hope for who it might be -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype_Entertainment

"Archetype Entertainment is an American video game development studio established as a division of game developer and publisher Wizards of the Coast, itself a subsidiary of Hasbro. The Austin, Texas-based studio was created by Wizards in April 2019 to develop new intellectual property outside of Wizards' existing Dungeons & Dragons and Magic: The Gathering franchises. Archetype is notable for having drawn talent from former BioWare staff that had previously worked on Dungeons & Dragons role-playing games such as the Baldur's Gate series among other titles, but had since left the studio after its acquisition by Electronic Arts. These include James Ohlen, Chad Robertson, and Drew Karpyshyn."

James Ohlen and Drew Karpyshyn were two of the writers for the original KOTOR game.
 
The KOTOR series has a final chapter, its SW:TOR. It finalizes the story of Revan as he plays a part in several parts of the game, and even had a full expansion based on just him and his eventual end, and then the game introduces you to the guy he was actually worried about who makes ol' Palpy look like a clown in comparison.
 
Could see Ubisoft doing it justice.
 
Even if you get all the team back together, no way they're gonna still be hungry and where they were in their lives that got them to drive forward and make the ME games like they were back then.
 
The KOTOR series has a final chapter, its SW:TOR. It finalizes the story of Revan as he plays a part in several parts of the game, and even had a full expansion based on just him and his eventual end, and then the game introduces you to the guy he was actually worried about who makes ol' Palpy look like a clown in comparison.

I've read the Revan novel and seen the cutscenes of Revan in TOR and its expansion, and its all crap.

I get Bioware wanted to make its own huge MMO to compete with WOW, but it was a mistake to tie it directly to KOTOR yet set over hundreds of years later.

KOTOR fans wanted a 3rd entry to end the trilogy, not a MMO.
 
I am fine if they make a new game in the KoToR universe, but leave Revan to bed. Mentions and things are fine, but fucks sake, KoToR 2 was 16 years ago, time for some new stories.
 
KOTOR fans wanted a 3rd entry to end the trilogy, not a MMO.

Well, they aren't getting what they want then. It's TOR, or continuing to cry for something they won't get. And honestly, the story for the end of Revan in TOR was just as good as the old KOTOR games. People that hate it the most tend to also be the ones most pissed off it was an MMO and not a single player game in my experience.
 
Well, they aren't getting what they want then. It's TOR, or continuing to cry for something they won't get. And honestly, the story for the end of Revan in TOR was just as good as the old KOTOR games. People that hate it the most tend to also be the ones most pissed off it was an MMO and not a single player game in my experience.

People who like it tend to be the ones with low expectations for quality writing, in my experience.

And TOR can be played Single-Player now.
 
My hopes are low but I'll keep this in mind.
 

I never begged for KOTOR to be remade or even expanded upon. And yes they will ruin it.

Want to know how I know that? Because KOTOR was made in 2003. The company that made it doesn't exist anymore. The creative force behind it is gone. Even if you got every single person who worked on the original back in the same room, they wouldn't be able to make another respectable KOTOR game because their lives, and creative synergy with each other and others, has grown and changed. They could make something good, but it would have to be different, and not KoToR, and probably not even Star Wars.

Im sorry for doubting you
 



Im sorry for doubting you

When season 4 of Arrested Development came out I was baffled by how bad it was. It didn't make sense to me because they had everyone back-- all the producers, the writers and actors. Everyone was back. But what I didn't understand at the time was that they, along with all their respective lives, had changed. They were at different places in life, and their talents had changed. Maybe someone who used to be a writer has found more passion and meaning in something else, and trying to find the synergy from ten years ago just doesn't work-- you have to create a new synergy, and sometimes it has to be with different people. I don't think that means that people get worse at things, though sometimes they do. I think people, especially creative people, grow in different paths. It's probably a lot easier to get back in your old seat, but when a group of people are called upon to do that in a coordinated effort to recreate lightning in a bottle from a different era, a countless number of problems arise.

The concept that comes to mind when one speaks the term "BioWare" just doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for a long time, I'd say well over ten years. As sacred a cow as Mass Effect is, I would argue that you could see the changes even in the 2007 game. I loved Mass Effect 2, and it might actually be my favorite BioWare game, but even still, you can see that things are starting to get just a little weird.
 



Im sorry for doubting you


Yikes, sounds like the project could be irrevocably fucked. May likely get scrapped altogether, and then time will tell if someone else starts over from scratch or not.

When season 4 of Arrested Development came out I was baffled by how bad it was. It didn't make sense to me because they had everyone back-- all the producers, the writers and actors. Everyone was back. But what I didn't understand at the time was that they, along with all their respective lives, had changed. They were at different places in life, and their talents had changed. Maybe someone who used to be a writer has found more passion and meaning in something else, and trying to find the synergy from ten years ago just doesn't work-- you have to create a new synergy, and sometimes it has to be with different people. I don't think that means that people get worse at things, though sometimes they do. I think people, especially creative people, grow in different paths. It's probably a lot easier to get back in your old seat, but when a group of people are called upon to do that in a coordinated effort to recreate lightning in a bottle from a different era, a countless number of problems arise.

The concept that comes to mind when one speaks the term "BioWare" just doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for a long time, I'd say well over ten years. As sacred a cow as Mass Effect is, I would argue that you could see the changes even in the 2007 game. I loved Mass Effect 2, and it might actually be my favorite BioWare game, but even still, you can see that things are starting to get just a little weird.

I’ve often fantasized about what could happen if John Romero and John Carmack could bury the hatchet and work together again what they could do, especially if you brought in some of the other old ID guys, but the truth is it probably wouldn’t be anything as special as Doom ever was.
 
Yikes, sounds like the project could be irrevocably fucked. May likely get scrapped altogether, and then time will tell if someone else starts over from scratch or not.



I’ve often fantasized about what could happen if John Romero and John Carmack could bury the hatchet and work together again what they could do, especially if you brought in some of the other old ID guys, but the truth is it probably wouldn’t be anything as special as Doom ever was.
Doom was about as likely as lightning hitting the same spot 20 times in a row. It was special in a way that's impossible to describe. It was the first time that non-gamers could see why gamers were excited
 
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