Why does Conor not engage in grappling

[ShowYouRoll]

Because Dustin is a bjj blackbelt, and Conor doesn’t have a strong offensive grappling skill set.

Conor is a brown belt, a brown belt who has someone’s leg like that should have enough experience and knowledge and no fear of attempting to finish a takedown. It’s a done deal when you have someone’s leg like that, even a high level blue belt would have no issues. Black belt or not, if Conor has done enough specific sparring, which being a brown belt he should’ve. That would show in the choice he made when he had dustins leg like that

 

[Paolo Delutis]

1. Grappling doesn't give you all the PPV records.

2. Dustin looked about 30 pounds heavier than Conor.

3. Conor is the ultimate entertainer.

Bro stop pushing this heavier shit ..


Last time i checked Conor fought 170lbs multiple times....

Dustin hasnt fought above 155....

You sound dumb

 

[gaffbyknees2]

Depends if you are a smart grappler, it doesn’t have to wear your cardio. Don’t assume from something you watch, go and learn to grapple and maybe you will learn how to get a position and get a rest

Actually I have wrestled in hs and a little in College D2 and yes I do train bjj still even though I did stop for years. My point was as you mentioned being a "smart grappler" takes a long time to develop and it's simply not where Conor is comfortable. It's not his specialty. Also training grappling is much different then being in a real fight against another top fighter that's trying to take you head off.

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply but I'd say it's not only a fact but common sense that if Conor had a grappling heavy gameplan he would gas out even faster because it's simply not where he is comfortable. He is much more comfortable on his feet trying to set up shots and angles while striking.

 

[ShowYouRoll]

He changed levels and was about to (panic) shoot . . . before Poirier's uppercut caught Connor squatting and floored him. The reality is that Conman has no confidence in his grappling, especially against a comfortable grappler like Poirier. Another way to look at is: Where has 99% of Conman's success come from? Striking or grappling? And, before Poirier, where have his greatest weaknesses/losses been?....grappling. Call me crazy, but that's probably why he didn't engage in grappling.

And Doostin isn’t exactly a great grapple himself. Black belt or not, when have you seen him use his BJJ to great use. Nate is better than him

 

[ShowYouRoll]

Actually I have wrestled in hs and a little in College D2 and yes I do train bjj still even though I did stop for years. My point was as you mentioned being a "smart grappler" takes a long time to develop and it's simply not where Conor is comfortable. It's not his specialty. Also training grappling is much different then being in a real fight against another top fighter that's trying to take you head off.

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply but I'd say it's not only a fact but common sense that if Conor had a grappling heavy gameplan he would gas out even faster because it's simply not where he is comfortable. He is much more comfortable on his feet trying to set up shots and angles while striking.

Yes that’s true, but someone said here he has been training under Kav for 15 years. Kav is a BJJ teacher, so that is more than enough time.

We all know where Conman focused his skills, on his left hand.

Even grappling for 6-8 years you can accomplish a lot

He also had dick head dannis training with him

 

[Maripucci]

Ego? Pride? Lack of ability? No gss tank?

 

[ShowYouRoll]

The second fight be got clinched abd controled almost all fight ...except for the moments he was jogging and turning his back to nate and running lol..

Revisionist history is strong with this one

He was usain bolt in that fight, not sure where out grappling came from. I think he mistyped and was meant to say “out ran” or “out sprinted” it’s more fitting

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Conor is a brown belt, a brown belt who has someone’s leg like that should have enough experience and knowledge and no fear of attempting to finish a takedown. It’s a done deal when you have someone’s leg like that, even a high level blue belt would have no issues. Black belt or not, if Conor has done enough specific sparring, which being a brown belt he should’ve. That would show in the choice he made when he had dustins leg like that

He should have. Yeah I mean we can all agree it would be nice if he spontaneously developed the skill set you’re describing. But we’ve literally never seen him offensively grapple besides clinching for shoulder strikes. It’s always a means to get back at a distance.

His losses have always come via submission besides poirer, and he only ever had one sub which was an RNC in cage warriors. He’s not looking for subs, either because of his gas tank, or he lacks the technique and skill to do so. Either way, saying he should engage in the ground with poirer is a bit silly considering poirer has submitted some very talented sub/bjj guys like pettis

 

[gaffbyknees2]

Yes that’s true, but someone said here he has been training under Kav for 15 years. Kav is a BJJ teacher, so that is more than enough time.

We all know where Conman focused his skills, on his left hand.

Even grappling for 6-8 years you can accomplish a lot

He also had dick head dannis training with him

Lol yea DIckhead Dannis is certainly legit in bjj however I'd think Conor is such a star HE dictates how long he trains grappling and no one is going to not be a yes man and really take him from his comfort zone. I have little to no doubt Conor and Conor only really runs his camps.

 

[ShowYouRoll]

He should have. Yeah I mean we can all agree it would be nice if he spontaneously developed the skill set you’re describing. But we’ve literally never seen him offensively grapple besides clinching for shoulder strikes. It’s always a means to get back at a distance.

His losses have always come via submission besides poirer, and he only ever had one sub which was an RNC in cage warriors. He’s not looking for subs, either because of his gas tank, or he lacks the technique and skill to do so. Either way, saying he should engage in the ground with poirer is a bit silly considering poirer has submitted some very talented sub/bjj guys like pettis

Conor really does have many holes in his game, I am surprised his opponents let him get away with so much. He basically got them to fight his style, stand and bang with him. The smart ones obviously didn’t, going forward any decent fighter should be able to expose him with ease.

 

[ShowYouRoll]

Lol yea DIckhead Dannis is certainly legit in bjj however I'd think Conor is such a star HE dictates how long he trains grappling and no one is going to not be a yes man and really take him from his comfort zone. I have little to no doubt Conor and Conor only really runs his camps.

Exactly his choices lead him down to this one trick pony position, and once you shut that one trick down. That leaves him with nothing, the best he can do is run away like he did against Nate the second fight.

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Conor really does have many holes in his game, I am surprised his opponents let’s him get away with so much. He basically got them to fight his style, stand and bag with him. The smart ones obviously didn’t, going forward any decent fighter should be able to expose him with ease.

I think it depends. Obviously Conor can still put away guys who are fragile on the feet very fast. Guys like nate and Dustin are durable enough to take some shots even from McGregor, and make it a skills test. Even then, McGregor is only really getting wrestled by really talented dudes. It’s not like any old dude can come up and out wrestle him. But when you get to the top 5/10 of LW most of these guys have a more developed skill set. Someone like Al Ianquinta would still be blasted by Conor.

 

[ReyesWon]

Bro stop pushing this heavier shit ..


Last time i checked Conor fought 170lbs multiple times....

Dustin hasnt fought above 155....

You sound dumb

Don't be ridiculous.

Everyone knows Dustin is the bigger framed man and walks heavier than Conor.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Don't be ridiculous.

Everyone knows Dustin is the bigger framed man and walks heavier than Conor.

Lmfao...how...conor cut weight to fight 170...

Am i believe Dustin weighs more then conor but still makes 155...

 

[ShowYouRoll]

I think it depends. Obviously Conor can still put away guys who are fragile on the feet very fast. Guys like nate and Dustin are durable enough to take some shots even from McGregor, and make it a skills test. Even then, McGregor is only really getting wrestled by really talented dudes. It’s not like any old dude can come up and out wrestle him. But when you get to the top 5/10 of LW most of these guys have a more developed skill set. Someone like Al Ianquinta would still be blasted by Conor.

True, but I think he struggles putting people down in higher weight classes. His power hasn’t transitioned well moving up, it seems shorter people like Eddie suffer more. Cowboy I think was a different situation, he got hid nose busted by a shoulder and more of a freak situation as opposed to clean strikes.

I feel without his power left, he will soon tire and anyone who can get passed that initial output can easily beat him later. I am suprised you think Al wouldn’t stand a chance, I would’ve thought his wrestling toughness would weather conors initial barrage leaving him open to being taken down and controlled with ease

 

[BayAreaGuy]

He needed a big knockout in order to sell the Pacquio fight.

 

[Ald0]

He out grappled Nate.

You’re talking out your ass here lol

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Because hes a decent grappler in a division of very good to great grapplers. Conor engaging the grappling is like sticking out his neck and begging to be choked. His level of grappling just is not enough

 

[ShowYouRoll]

He needed a big knockout in order to sell the Pacquio fight.

What about previous fights? It’s clear and already established that he cannot or chooses not to grapple for reasons other than needing a knockout finish, and more to the fact that he has chosen to ignore the art of grappling, and not address his cardio issues.

 

[chance mccoy]

Grappling is cardio intensive, he already runs with no gas to start