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@pankrat while i think that Carneira would have beaten Ngannou in a fight where grappling and kicks aren't allowed and where they both were boxing gloves, i'm less inclined to believe he'd be the favorite if it was a kickboxing match and even less if they'd have worn MMA gloves.
Plus Ngannou - despite not having the cleanest form - has a very good eye for a counter.
Cool to see someone bringing up Carneira though, i don't know how good he was exactly for a boxer, but he's a phenomenal example for someone who's ridiculously big while being fairly lean who's not on steroids.
Because having a gigantic skeletal frame (and this includes bone circumference) is a thing after all, despite many people telling themselves that guys that size just have to be on something.
Plus Ngannou - despite not having the cleanest form - has a very good eye for a counter.
Cool to see someone bringing up Carneira though, i don't know how good he was exactly for a boxer, but he's a phenomenal example for someone who's ridiculously big while being fairly lean who's not on steroids.
Because having a gigantic skeletal frame (and this includes bone circumference) is a thing after all, despite many people telling themselves that guys that size just have to be on something.