UFC 261: Usman vs Masvidal 2 official thread

spams takedowns pulls guard, very erratic and not physically strong. She lost to anyone decent ( agapova, velasquez and Shakirova ) , which dosent mean much. That last loss was to a regional Asian girl and shes a similar built to Carnelossi. She was very active off her back and she keeps throwing up armbars and triangles constantly, but they seem kinda sloppy. She kept putting Agapova and this regional girl in them but both survived. Agapova pounded her out from guard and the regional girl armbared her from top by the end of second.

Carnelossi is a Nova União black belt so should be ok. Sub is an easy hedge though
yeah but those fights were 3-4 years ago at 125lbs. Since then she graduated from the UFC China PI and tested her cut to 115lbs. I know they were low level women she fought but she did what she had to do and got early subs. I’m speculating we see a much more improved version.
 
Connely is a grinder I've seen him fight a bunch on the local scene here, if he could out wrestle a huge explosive welterweight like Perriea on 6 days notice I think he'll be able to control and grind out a win against Sabatini at featherweight. Sabatini looks decent but I duno it seems like he's getting a lot of hype, the odds seem off to me.
 
I don't like this card for betting so I'm trying to think outside the box for some small value plays.

Early in the Usman-Burns fight, Burns got a couple licks in on Usman before the tide turned. I remember watching thinking that Usman could be in trouble.

Any chance Jorge has similar success? And if he lands, will it be enough to make Usman do the chicken dance? I think Usman is amazing but his stand-up isn't the most fluid.

Masvidal by stoppage at 5.50 to 1 currently...I dunno...I've seen crazier things happen.
 
I think his whole life trajectory was changed by throwing one spinning back kick.

He doesn't do that, he likely retains the title and doesn't take one of the worst beatings in UFC history(seriously that stoppage was awful).

That beating, a long with his forthcoming beatings, changed his face and his quality of life down the stretch in general.

He would've fought Bisping next, likely won, and then got a huge payday/super fight with GSP(if GSP would've even taken that fight). Maybe him and Romero don't cross paths, instead we get him vs Whittaker in Weidman's prime.

Butterfly effect es loco

Yeah its crazy. I agree. Single decisions in the cage have massive effects down the line.
 
Does Shevchenko have much experience with wrestlers? Andrade can be a little powerhouse.

I rarely get excited or back female fighters with any confidence. Shevchenko is the full meal deal. She doesn't have any holes in her game. Even the best female wrestler is going to have problems dealing with Shev IMO.
 
I rarely get excited or back female fighters with any confidence. Shevchenko is the full meal deal. She doesn't have any holes in her game. Even the best female wrestler is going to have problems dealing with Shev IMO.
I think I good wrestler can give her problems. Maia took her down and controlled her easily for a whole round. She has holes in her grappling game for sure

Andrade is a decent grappler but I don’t think she’s good enough to give shev any real problems

it will be fun to see how she deals with the pressure from andrade. I like the over 4.5 but shev does have a habit of finishing girls who aggressively pursue her.
 
Thought Masvidal must have stepped in late notice again but no, he seemingly lost 5 rounds last year and the UFC book him a rematch?

Bizarre. I'd have rather Leon Edwards, Wonderboy or even Luque get it rather than an instant rematch for Masvidal.
 
I think rose can stop zhang early but I don’t see a lot of scenarios where she wins a decision.
i actually think it's the opposite. if rose wins, she's taking a dec for sure. zhang is a tough chick and is built like a brick shithouse.i think rose can give her problems with her movement and angles but ultimately, weili is considerably more physical and packs a bigger punch. if anyone gets stopped here, it's rose.

So far liking Usman wins in round 4,5 or dec -162

that's a great line. wish my bookie had it
 
i actually think it's the opposite. if rose wins, she's taking a dec for sure. zhang is a tough chick and is built like a brick shithouse.i think rose can give her problems with her movement and angles but ultimately, weili is considerably more physical and packs a bigger punch. if anyone gets stopped here, it's rose.



that's a great line. wish my bookie had it
Rose doesn’t have the cardio to go 5 hard rounds with weili. She was fading in what round 2 vs Andrade? Fading in rd3-4 against JJ?
 
Rose is going to get absolutely wrecked and I’m like her number one fan
I love zhang ITD and round props. Rose best hope is to get some sort of random sub early or play the aljo card if the opportunity presents itself.
 
Rose doesn’t have the cardio to go 5 hard rounds with weili. She was fading in what round 2 vs Andrade? Fading in rd3-4 against JJ?
True that, she was fading indeed. All in all, i gotta admit i don't like her chances that much. Really don't see her putting weili away early, that's for sure. I hate playing wmma but will most likely play her
 
Props to look at:

Kamaru Usman by dec -130
Dwight Grant "Body Snatcher" by KO +105
Pat Sabatini by dec +120
Brendan Allen inside distance +130

Weili Zhang by dec +160
Zhu Rong by KO +175
Danaa Batgerel by dec +175

Ariane Carnelossi "Smile" by KO +200

 
True that, she was fading indeed. All in all, i gotta admit i don't like her chances that much. Really don't see her putting weili away early, that's for sure. I hate playing wmma but will most likely play her
I don’t like her mental game either. She hasn’t shown the greatest fight iq and she admitted She wasn’t really in that fight against Andrade and didn’t want to be champ anymore. Also add in the multiple weak moments where she isolated in New York because of protestors and the McGregor bus debacle
 
True that, she was fading indeed. All in all, i gotta admit i don't like her chances that much. Really don't see her putting weili away early, that's for sure. I hate playing wmma but will most likely play her
I say that because weili hasn’t shown the greatest chin. She’s been dropped in multiple fights and rose can crack. Not to mention the club and sub will be at play. Weili hasn’t had to deal with someone with the jiu jitsu the caliber of roses
 
I like Crute KO +200. More than likely Smith is gassed as fuck in rounds 2/3. He doesn't get subbed a lot and has a pretty good BJJ, so I think Allen gets a TKO from top position.

Carnelossi KO +210 isn't bad either.

Haven't looked at many unders, will check them out today/tomorrow. The one that sticks out to me the most right now is U4.5 in Rose/Zhang @ +115. I actually, as I wrote those, threw 100 on it, and will probably add to it, as there's so many ways this fight can end.
 
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I like Allen KO +200. More than likely Smith is gassed as fuck in rounds 2/3. He doesn't get subbed a lot and has a pretty good BJJ, so I think Allen gets a TKO from top position.
You probably mean Crute, right?


I got these so far. Crute is going to force a firefight and Smith will oblige.

4/24/2021 10:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1415 Smith wins in round 1* +850
Risking $15.00 To Win $127.50

0:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1438 Fight won’t start round 2* +205
Risking $50.00 To Win $102.50

4/24/2021 10:00 PM MMA Props Fighting 1436 Fight won’t start round 3* -105 vs Smith / Crute
Risking $157.50 To Win $150.00
 
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