Dave Leduc banned from MTFL Lethwei federation for clout chasing

You can bet he will probably open a Lethwei martial art center in the West, teaching beginners to headbutt pads and do the traditional Lethwei ritual of slapping your own elbow.
"learn from the undefeated king of Lethwei, a martial art more complete and more brutal than muay thai"
Lethwei curriculum on route to MMA gyms
 
Haven't read the whole thread, but my two cents as someone who has lived in Myanmar for 15+ years :

The ban is almost certainly due to his criticism of the coup. Nothing about animosity between Thailand and Myanmar.
He's not a big name here. Sure, he probably has a decent following on social media but no one really cares. The gap between him and someone like Aung La N Sang would be miles wide. Lethwei's always been a pretty niche sport here despite what you might have heard.
 
Wtf, how can someone get banned for that?

That's why this will always be a broke ass sport. And people okay with that is the reason communism coming back, there's no freedom anymore.
 
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Wtf, how can someone get banned for that?

That's why this will always be a broke ass sport. And people okay with that is the reason communism coming back, there's no freedom anymore.
He is free. He is saying and doing what he wants
 
If he is referencing the comment that this is about the coup then he is basically correct. Military dictatorships that massacre minority communities are not exactly known for their upholding of personal liberties. Its also probably true that it will hinder the growth of the sport if said government is banning a lineal champion for political reasons. The communism angle is a bit off but considering they are increasingly integrating into the Chinese sphere of influence its also not too far off.
 
If he is referencing the comment that this is about the coup then he is basically correct. Military dictatorships that massacre minority communities are not exactly known for their upholding of personal liberties. Its also probably true that it will hinder the growth of the sport if said government is banning a lineal champion for political reasons. The communism angle is a bit off but considering they are increasingly integrating into the Chinese sphere of influence its also not too far off.
No I was WUT?ing at the notion that us being OK with Leduc being banned for being a douchebag is somehow contributing to the rise of communism. He likely didn't even get past the Buakaw reasoning for his ban.
 
Wtf, how can someone get banned for that?

That's why this will always be a broke ass sport. And people okay with that is the reason communism coming back, there's no freedom anymore.
Has nothing to do with communism lol. This isn't the 70s.
 
Wtf, how can someone get banned for that?

That's why this will always be a broke ass sport. And people okay with that is the reason communism coming back, there's no freedom anymore.

You sound upset with the ban... Sorry for your loss.

In any case, deciding to ban someone who's behaving badly publicly while pretending to represent your country and martial art isn't extreme or against freedom. If Leduc hadn't acted like he was the voice of Myanmar and Lethwei in the West and online this probably wouldn't have happened.
 
He is a the king of Lethwei without actually training Lethwei. That is kinda odd but those are the openweight rules
 
You sound upset with the ban... Sorry for your loss.

In any case, deciding to ban someone who's behaving badly publicly while pretending to represent your country and martial art isn't extreme or against freedom. If Leduc hadn't acted like he was the voice of Myanmar and Lethwei in the West and online this probably wouldn't have happened.

I could not care less about Leduc but he did the right thing here knowing it meant that he wouldn't be returning anytime soon. Fair play to him. In contrast, Aung La set off a sh*tstorm with his initial 'good luck y'all' facebook post. Still think you're buying into the propaganda surrounding the ban and misinterpreting the official line of 'bad behaviour online'.
 
I could not care less about Leduc but he did the right thing here knowing it meant that he wouldn't be returning anytime soon. Fair play to him. In contrast, Aung La set off a sh*tstorm with his initial 'good luck y'all' facebook post. Still think you're buying into the propaganda surrounding the ban and misinterpreting the official line of 'bad behaviour online'.

Since we're all misinterpreting the official reason for the ban, do you mind enlightening us as to why he got banned if not for the stated reasons? Is it a conspiracy against the king of Lethwei? Or communism being back?

Leduc had it coming and got what he deserved. You can believe there's more behind it all you want but the stated reasons are good enough reasons to most of us here on this forum.
 
I already have....Also, communism? In what way?

Haven't read the whole thread, but my two cents as someone who has lived in Myanmar for 15+ years :

The ban is almost certainly due to his criticism of the coup. Nothing about animosity between Thailand and Myanmar.
He's not a big name here. Sure, he probably has a decent following on social media but no one really cares. The gap between him and someone like Aung La N Sang would be miles wide. Lethwei's always been a pretty niche sport here despite what you might have heard.
 
The ban has nothing to do with the coup. The Ban in Thailand came from the top promoters and ministry of culture I believe then handed it off to the military for I assume enforcement. The Ban in Myanmar came from the two older Lethwei organizations since WLC seems to have folded once the coup began. Dave was with the WLC and formerly with the older organizations and they essentially banned him and now of course that flows directly to the military Dave likes to reword and rework things to make it sound like something else. Dave is essentially banned in Myanmar and Thailand by the sports people despite his propaganda and he said essentially fuck Thailand he is never going back so I guess that seals the deal there for him. Myanmar with the coup now will not tolerate any loud mouth foreigner who says he fights for the 55 million Burmese and is tries to make himself out to be the white savior of Lethwei. Thats really the situation. He was trying to bait Buakaw into a fight without ever coming to the table and communicating with his manager or team or Buakaw himself and he kept pushing it over the top. It got silly with the stupid things he was saying and the Thai organizers communicated their disdain for him to the Burmese promoters and thats where this started. Leduc is not intelligent or up on cultural aspects or what is going on in each country, so he just thinks he will muscle through things. But Burmese and Thais work together to promote things and were working well and helping out with cross events. They didn't want this type of nonsense especially with Myanmar dealing with the heavy covid crisis and the coup so they just did what the Thais did and banned him. Leduc has some following but its not what he makes it out to be because he makes no money fighting and he is not in the same league as Buakaw. He was trying to pull a Jake Paul but without the fan support or backing and it blew up in his face. So they just threw him under the bus because he is nobody to either side despite what people think. Leduc uses tons of propaganda and constant rewording of events to sell what I believe is some future book or whatever he has coming out or whatever nonsense he is doing. He avoids tons of fights because with the WLC he was part of the promotion and picking fighters, now he is out in the open and trying to bring big fights and fighters to the table but it isn't working. He should just fight and get on with it. Less talk more action would help him tremendously
 
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Wow, okay, I'll readily eat my words here because there was clearly a lot more here than I thought. Didn't realise he was banned in Thailand - like I said, I could not care less about Leduc and didn't look into it at all.

My bad, but given the circumstances here, bans / arrests / exiles are pretty much every day occurrences so figured this was just another of those. Especially given his speaking out against the coup, which would have gotten him banned anyway without all of this other nonsense that I had no idea was going on.
 
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