Social WR Lounge 288 Thrown off a cliff edition

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I assume you meant, "keep it from becoming uncomfortable"?

Yes. I am tired and should be asleep haha

thanks for pointing that out I edited

 

[tonni]

Well, Pan can defend himself. Picking on Kong is fucking with the special needs kid who drools on himself at recess.

I'm fully prepared to be reported for that comment.

Edit: @Cubo de Sangre there goes my high horse.

I think Kong was smarter than @sickness2.0 though.

 

[sickness2.0]

Well, Pan can defend himself. Picking on Kong is fucking with the special needs kid who drools on himself at recess.

I'm fully prepared to be reported for that comment.

Edit: @Cubo de Sangre there goes my high horse.

Fuck Pan but all the rest of what you said.

I’m a naturally diplomatic kind of person, ok?

I'll be a nice a guy Mr. Kill me in one punch

 

[sickness2.0]

I think Kong was smarter than @sickness2.0 though.

yes Mr Rachel Maddow is smarter than me ....

 

[tonni]

yes Mr Rachel Maddow is smarter than me ....

Well that or he tried more than you.

 

[sickness2.0]

That has to be it.

 

[Bald1]

I think Kong was smarter than @sickness2.0 though.

You should read some of the posts he directed at me. Has no clue what literary devices are, couldn't reconcile the fact that two things can be true at the same time, is baffled by the word "gracefully", nuance is a foreign concept, hate has blinded him to possibilities, etc. So, I disagree. But, on that note, I'm gonna cut that dialogue short as that has exceeded my quota for being a dick for the rest of the month. Maybe the year.

 

[sickness2.0]

You should read some of the posts he directed at me. Has no clue what literary devices are, couldn't reconcile the fact that two things can be true at the same time, is baffled by the word "gracefully", nuance is a foreign concept, hate has blinded him to possibilities, etc. So, I disagree. But, on that note, I'm gonna cut that dialogue short as that has exceeded my quota for being a dick for the rest of the month. Maybe the year.

Good Post and *like

 

[Ruprecht]

this is great night music. I'm going to put this on my Spotify.

I didn't realise Sting was still at it. Don't think I'd heard anything from him since he did that single with Bryan Adams and Rod Stewart.
Can't say I was a fan, so that song is surprisingly good.
It's funny when you catch up with artists you listened to decades ago and see what happened to their career.
For a War Room angle, I got quite a shock when I looked up Life Of Agony and discovered Keith Caputo now performs as Mina Caputo (well before this latest transexual obsession). Although at least the vocals haven't changed as much as I might have expected.

Spoiler: LOA then and now

 

[sickness2.0]

I didn't realise Sting was still at it. Don't think I'd heard anything from him since he did that single with Bryan Adams and Rod Stewart.
Can't say I was a fan, so that song is surprisingly good.
It's funny when you catch up with artists you listened to decades ago to see what happened to their career.
For a War Room angle, I got quite a shock when I looked up Life Of Agony and discovered Keith Caputo now performs as Mina Caputo (well before this latest transexual obsession). Although at least the vocals haven't changed as much as I might have expected.

When artist tend to get older they try to branch out on they're music in most of the time it is always a hit or miss. When I listen to bands like Korn or metallic they can make decent music but a lot of times it sounds like they are trying to hard to be different. That's why a lot of times I go back and listen to the (classical) stuff.

 

[tonni]

You should read some of the posts he directed at me. Has no clue what literary devices are, couldn't reconcile the fact that two things can be true at the same time, is baffled by the word "gracefully", nuance is a foreign concept, hate has blinded him to possibilities, etc. So, I disagree. But, on that note, I'm gonna cut that dialogue short as that has exceeded my quota for being a dick for the rest of the month. Maybe the year.

Didn't read none of that all I know is that @sickness2.0 leaves out every third word in a sentence and it's confusing.

 

[sickness2.0]

Didn't read none of that all I know is that @sickness2.0 leaves out every third word in a sentence and it's confusing.

 

[Deorum]

That is liberalism at it's core: question, asses, deliberate, then figure out the best course.

Oh, yeah!

As far as what you obviously meant:

That is liberalism at it's core: question, assess, deliberate, then figure out the best course.

You could probably write up some worthwhile critiques about Critical Race Theory if you went from the angle of it being anti-liberal as opposed to "racist and anti-white", that would certainly be something original around here. It actually rather flatly claims to be the former, at least in terms of approach to racial equality and justice.

 

[tonni]

You've got none.

 

[Ruprecht]

When artist tend to get older they try to branch out on they're music in most of the time it is always a hit or miss. When I listen to bands like Korn or metallic they can make decent music but a lot of times it sounds like they are trying to hard to be different. That's why a lot of times I go back and listen to the (classical) stuff.

I'd usually blame attempts to make albums more of a commercial success, especially with a large, aging fan base, but yeah it's certainly true that bands often go through major style changes. More miss than hit in my opinion.
I think I mentioned The Cult going from New Wave/Goth Rock to Hard Rock in this thread or the last.
A local band did a song about it, "I Like Your Old Stuff Better Than Your New Stuff".
They were taking the piss about their own changes in style and fan reactions, but it's certainly often the case.

 

[sickness2.0]

You've got none.

I'd usually blame attempts to make albums more of a commercial success, especially with a large, aging fan base, but yeah it's certainly true that bands often go through major style changes. More miss than hit in my opinion.
I think I mentioned The Cult going from New Wave/Goth Rock to Hard Rock in this thread or the last.
A local band did a song about it, "I Like Your Old Stuff Better Than Your New Stuff".
They were taking the piss about their own changes in style and fan reactions, but it's certainly often the case.

I don't blame bands doing it but yeah most of the time it doesn't turn out well. I honestly can't think of that many bands that a really good later albums that I truly enjoyed.

 

[Bald1]

Oh, yeah!

As far as what you obviously meant:


You could probably write up some worthwhile critiques about Critical Race Theory if you went from the angle of it being anti-liberal as opposed to "racist and anti-white", that would certainly be something original around here. It actually rather flatly claims to be the former, at least in terms of approach to racial equality and justice.

Asses, oooh my! We probably have different asses in mind, but thanks for the correction.

I legit don't know what CRT actually is. Is it a race based assessment of relationships coming from an intersectional viewpoint? Is it something I should look for under my bed before going to sleep? Is it an objective look at American (irrelevant from any other perspective regardless of whatever tf it is) race relations history? I've asked for an explanation, but never got an answer.

Seriously, what is it? Bueller?

All I know is if we're going to start any conversation by pointing fingers then people will inevitably go on the defensive. Especially when the overwhelming vast majority of the people who feel like they're being pointed at don't come from a line ever involved in where and how the conversation started.

I get it, we're all involved now, but why should I give a flying blue fuck beyond treating you the same and affording you the same opportunities as I would any other individual? I refuse to be a member of a collective I had no choice in joining. To put me in that group goes against individualism and so is illiberal.

I could be tilting at windmills there as I don't know if I'm ranting about CRT or something completely unrelated. I could probably write up some bullshit if I knew what I'm supposed to bullshit about. Lol

Anyways, I have to get my verbose and profane arse to bed. Cheers bud!

 

[Deorum]

Asses, oooh my! We probably have different asses in mind, but thanks for the correction.

I legit don't know what CRT actually is. Is it a race based assessment of relationships coming from an intersectional viewpoint? Is it something I should look for under my bed before going to sleep? Is it an objective look at American (irrelevant from any other perspective regardless of whatever tf it is) race relations history? I've asked for an explanation, but never got an answer.

Seriously, what is it? Bueller?

All I know is if we're going to start any conversation by pointing fingers then people will inevitably go on the defensive. Especially when the overwhelming vast majority of the people who feel like they're being pointed at don't come from a line ever involved in where and how the conversation started.

I get it, we're all involved now, but why should I give a flying blue fuck beyond treating you the same and affording you the same opportunities as I would any other individual? I refuse to be a member of a collective I had no choice in joining. To put me in that group goes against individualism and so is illiberal.

I could be tilting at windmills there as I don't know if I'm ranting about CRT or something completely unrelated. I could probably write up some bullshit if I knew what I'm supposed to bullshit about. Lol

Anyways, I have to get my verbose and profane arse to bed. Cheers bud!

So has anyone actually read any Critical Race Theory? Can't say I have personally. Although I've read a bit of Critical Theory, and it's not much of a boogey man, although it is of course inherently an activist framework for understanding.

It really ain't my lane tbh, but this is probably the most objective description I've seen of not only CRT itself, but the controversy exploding and surrounding America's mainstream sociopolitical discourse as well. It'll probably go well with a cup of morning coffee (Bald1) and provides a decent short form grasp on what the hell is going on IMO.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05

The Anti-Commie Mommy one, although I've seen several of those threads. Huey P is a hero.

Huey Percy Newton (February 17, 1942 – August 22, 1989) was an African-American revolutionary, most known for co-founding the Black Panther Party (BPP) with Bobby Seale. Together, Newton and Seale created the party's manifesto, the ten-point program. Newton also used his position as a leader within the Black Panther Party to welcome women and LGBT people into the party, describing homosexuals as "the most oppressed people" in society.

Under Newton's leadership, the Black Panther Party founded over 60 community programs including food banks, clothing banks, medical clinics, sickle cell anemia tests, prison busing for families of inmates, legal advice seminars, housing cooperates, and their own ambulance service. The most famous of these programs was the Free Breakfast for Children program which fed thousands of impoverished children daily during the early 1970s. Newton also co-founded the Black Panther newspaper service which became one of America's most widely distributed African-American newspapers.[1][2][3]

Incredible American. A true hero, and actually embraced the ideas of what it is to be American.

It's a pretty short list, but just about all of my heroes are physicists who stood humanity on its head and laid the foundation to forever alter the course of its advancement -- except for Huey, and Larry Kramer.

Laurence David Kramer (June 25, 1935 – May 27, 2020) was an American novelist, playwright, screenwriter, public health advocate, and activist. In 1982, he co-founded Gay Men's Health Crisis (GMHC), the world's first and largest private organization assisting people living with HIV/AIDS. In 1987, he formed the direct action protest group AIDS Coalition To Unleash Power (ACT UP) which changed political organizing, heavily publicized the lack of treatment available for people living with HIV/AIDS and altered medical science in the process.

Dr. Larry Mass, a physician and co-founder of GMHC who wrote the first articles about the emerging epidemic in May 1981 in the New York Native said of him, “Larry Kramer is a colossus of character, courage, drive, genius, and providence with no counterpart. He has cut a swath across populations, communities, continents, timespans, theater, literature, medicine, and science. Where would we be without him? Alas, the answer to that is already nipping at our heels.”

“In American medicine, there are two eras: before Larry and after Larry,” said Dr. Anthony S. Fauci of the National Institutes of Health. “There is no question in my mind that Larry helped change medicine in this country, and he helped change it for the better. When all the screaming and histrionics are forgotten, that will remain.”

We could postulate that in a few years homosexuality is seen as a mental illness again and thus would I, in retrospect, be ashamed to have celebrated Pride. No.

This was pretty low class from the "leftist" NYT last year.





It generally hasn't ever been that great on LGBT issues.

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Love Peter too.

 

[Ruprecht]

It really ain't my lane tbh, but this is probably the most objective description I've seen of not only CRT itself, but the controversy exploding and surrounding America's mainstream sociopolitical discourse as well. It'll probably go well with a cup of morning coffee (Bald1) and provides a decent short form grasp on what the hell is going on IMO.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05

I'd basically gathered that just from the third party articles I'd read about it, although it doesn't really describe what aspects of Critical Race Theory are supposedly to blame for what, in my experience, is a very typical trend in identity politics.
No one was talking about Critical Race Theory in Malaysia in the 80s and 90s, but you still saw similar trends in identity politics which started as "this group is being excluded from fair participation in society by X", devolving into straight up finger pointing between identity groups and politics as blatant appeals to group identity (while the obvious corruption of those making the appeals was ignored).

 

[tonni]

What a great lounge. Close to zero fighting. Keep it up.