Law Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act: Signed into law 11/15/21

But it could save potential future buildings and bridges. And the failure points to the consequences of not addressing infrastructure problems.

it’s an important issue that has grave consequences if left untouched. Sooner is better than later, and possible success is better than future gambling.
Here's the thing. Im not disagreeing with you, the opposite really. But, your initial statement and this one that I quoted are very different conversations.
 
On a side note, I like how the conservo-sherbros on here are like fk yea ! No tax raises.
McConell looking out for us.

Even though the proposed tax "hikes" are rollbacks of Trump's for ppl making over 400k.


Percentage of conservo-sherbros making that bank ?
0.000000000000000000000001%
 
Here's the thing. Im not disagreeing with you, the opposite really. But, your initial statement and this one that I quoted are very different conversations.

Yeah, I feel you.

I just get fired up.

I gotta get fired up about something. This one seems like low-hanging fruit for me.
 
Yeah, I feel you.

I just get fired up.

I gotta get fired up about something. This one seems like low-hanging fruit for me.
That's fine. I understand. I was just clarifying so you wouldn't think I was just having a go at you. This kind of thread about construction is the only type of thread I can really intellectually hang with as I have almost 2 decades of experience
 
Republican senators say bipartisan infrastructure deal can move forward after Biden clarifies position
CNBC
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U.S. Senator Rob Portman, R-Ohio, said Sunday that the bipartisan infrastructure deal can move forward, following President Joe Biden’s clarification that he’ll sign the bill even if it comes without a reconciliation package.

The president had said last week that he’d refuse to sign the deal unless the two bills came in tandem, a remark that angered and surprised Republican lawmakers.


After backlash from Republicans including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Biden released a lengthy statement on Saturday walking back the comment and reiterating full support for the deal.

“We were all blindsided by the comments the previous day, which were that these two bills were connected,” Portman said during an interview with ABC’s “This Week.”

“I’m glad they’ve been de-linked and it’s very clear that we can move forward with a bipartisan bill that’s broadly popular not just among members of Congress, but the American people,” Portman said. He added there’s been “good faith” from both parties throughout negotiations.

Such a weird two days. Headlines from Friday are all null at this point where I have to wipe half the podcasts in my queue.
 
we did it fam

Well so far I think there’s still only 21 senators who said they are on board so we don’t know if there’s 60 yet til the vote gets closer. After that, there isn’t necessarily assurance Pelosi will put it on the floor in the house as she did the same ultimatum Biden did and I’m not aware of her walking it back. It also seems a bit implied that still might be the case because Biden even mentioned something alone the lines about the Congress sorting that stuff out.
 
@DavidsGhost

there also isn’t an actual bill yet and just a framework. It’s completely possible when it gets into details of what the funding specifically goes to that we will see more disagreement.
 
House passes $715 billion transportation and water infrastructure bill
CNN
The House of Representatives voted on Thursday to approve a $715 billion transportation and water infrastructure bill focused on improving and repairing roads, bridges, transit and rail, and ensuring clean drinking water.

The vote was 221-201 with two Republicans voting with Democrats in favor.
House Democrats say the bill -- known as the INVEST in America Act -- will deliver on key priorities in President Joe Biden's American Jobs Plan, and they hope the legislative text can be used to negotiate with the Senate and the White House to determine what specific policy proposals can be included as part of the recently announced bipartisan infrastructure framework.
Democratic Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon, the lead sponsor of the INVEST Act and chair of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, said at a news conference on Wednesday, "I'm suggesting that substantial amounts of the policy in our bill should be negotiated by the White House, and the Senate and the House to be part of that bipartisan proposal."

Seems like this might be the bill that is used between the House and Senate if the bipartisan Senate infrastructure bill passes. Since the Senate hasn't even released a bill, the House has somewhat set the stage for negotiations between the two chambers. What's interesting is if this is the only bill needed to get something to Biden's desk, it might mean Pelosi might be okay with it not being tied to the reconciliation bill. Seeing different reports about whether it's a completely different bill or possible to match up to the Senate bill. Haven't seen the main differences between each. My guess would more green energy initiatives and more spending are in this one but again, the Senate hasn't actually released their bill yet dispite all the news and discussions about it. The House bill vote nearly fell along party lines, with only two republican votes. This bill also brought a return of earmarks.
 
U.S. Senate panel passes energy measure likely to shape infrastructure bill
Reuters

A U.S. Senate committee on Wednesday passed a bill on climate and energy initiatives that are expected to be debated as part of the wider bipartisan infrastructure bill.

The Senate energy panel voted 13 to 7 to pass the bill, which authorizes about $100 billion for initiatives such as helping the power grid handle more electricity from renewable sources, boosting production of hydrogen from sources that are cleaner than fossil fuels, and capturing carbon from fossil fuel plants and other industry before it can reach the atmosphere.

The bill, sponsored by Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and the chairman of the committee, also includes initiatives to boost nuclear power.

Also, vote could be coming soon as next week for the bill:

Senate looks to vote on infrastructure as soon as July 19
New York Post
The $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill could come to the Senate floor as soon as July 19, sources confirmed to The Post on Wednesday.

The potential vote comes as Democrats look to pass a second sweeping infrastructure bill progressives have advocated for despite Republican pushback.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has indicated the House would not take up the bipartisan deal without the Senate passing a reconciliation bill allowing for Democrats to pass a more extensive passage by bypassing the filibuster in the upper chamber.

Democrats in both chambers have said they would like to see an infrastructure measure passed by the end of July.

A group of bipartisan senators hashed out a $1.2 trillion plan to address hard infrastructure, which would be spent over the course of eight years.
 
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The IRS funding has somehow become a roadblock here. One thing already ridiculous about that piece is it expects to pull in way more than the IRS projects so this bill isn’t truly deficit neutral on that price alone.

Also, a procedural vote is expected on Wednesday but a draft hasn’t even been finalized yet and main sponsors of the bill like Romney said they would have to vote no since nothing is even there to know what they are voting on.

Expect this coming week for a lot of shit to hit the fan if things don’t change.
 
Schumer tees up bipartisan infrastructure vote after Republicans urge delay
Reuters
WASHINGTON, July 19 (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said on Monday he would set a procedural vote on a bipartisan infrastructure package that is a key part of Democratic President Joe Biden's agenda for Wednesday, increasing pressure on negotiators as they struggled with ways to pay for the cost of the measure.

Schumer said the Wednesday vote did not require Senate negotiators hammer out every provision in the bill by then and that Democratic leaders of the bipartisan group supported his approach.

"The motion to proceed on Wednesday is simply about getting the legislative process started here on the Senate floor. It is not a deadline to determine every final detail of the bill," Schumer said on the Senate floor.

The announcement came as Republicans urged Schumer to delay the Wednesday vote if the legislation was not yet fully written.
 
Gee, and how much of that money will actually be used for real infrastructure work like roads, bridges, dams, etc.
Lol permits and red tape . I'm sure a lot of friends , oops I mean donors. Wait sorry. I'm sure none of that money will line the pockets of hard working Beaurocrats and already filthy rich millionares .
 
Vote failed today to move forward on debate, mainly because there isn't even a draft present at this point. Sometimes bills do get through on the procedural vote before a full bill is available but in this case, nah. Portman says they still need a week to iron out the pay fors and get all of the 11 Republicans who originally backed it to stay on board. Romney said 3/4 of the issues are resolved at this point and he doesn't see why the rest won't be resolved over the rest of this week. Schumer has said he's fine with a revote and it can come to the floor whenever they think that have 60 votes. The guess though would be if a second vote fails, they will have to pair this into the reconciliation as one bill.
 
Gee, and how much of that money will actually be used for real infrastructure work like roads, bridges, dams, etc.


The bipartisan bill will be selling off roads, bridges, and damns. I hope it doesn't get passed.
 
The conservatives want to kick the infrastructure can down the road until the entire country crumbles.

I don’t know what’s wrong with these people. This failing infrastructure should’ve been addressed years ago. When is a good time to actually address these issues?
 
The conservatives want to kick the infrastructure can down the road until the entire country crumbles.

I don’t know what’s wrong with these people. This failing infrastructure should’ve been addressed years ago. When is a good time to actually address these issues?
If there was a vote on finalizing a cure for cancer, the Republicans would find a way to vote against it if passing it meant helping Joe Biden.
 
Vote failed today to move forward on debate, mainly because there isn't even a draft present at this point. Sometimes bills do get through on the procedural vote before a full bill is available but in this case, nah. Portman says they still need a week to iron out the pay fors and get all of the 11 Republicans who originally backed it to stay on board. Romney said 3/4 of the issues are resolved at this point and he doesn't see why the rest won't be resolved over the rest of this week. Schumer has said he's fine with a revote and it can come to the floor whenever they think that have 60 votes. The guess though would be if a second vote fails, they will have to pair this into the reconciliation as one bill.
That is not why the vote failed. Please tell me you don't actually believe that. Schumer did the right thing in bringing the vote to the floor to be the eternal negotiators on record. Republicans want nothing more than to do nothing. Especially when it's beneficial politically to Biden. Schumer learned from the mistakes of Obama in trying to negotiate in good faith with McConnell and the Republicans...who were in the end never really want a solution, just to drag things out until they can flip one of the chambers or the White House.
 
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