I agree, however, it's impossible to compare apples to apples. The corporate world, people have been studying since 5 years old amd paying to go to college to get that job. LolThey don’t get paid to fight for 15 minutes they get paid to train themselves into the ground all year round and make sacrifices.
Personally I don't agree with this, guys like Francis get paid just fine. Its the guys lower down the card who need to get paid more. Francis getting a couple extra million dollars isn't going to make him a better fighter and I don't care that he can't afford more Rolex's and sports cars. But for the guys on the prelims on their first contract getting paid more can mean the difference between being able to quit their day job or move to a better camp. If being a UFC fighter is just an opportunity and not a career then that is going to drive away certain athletes who won't be willing to make that gamble with their time and their bodies. A fighter who never cracks the top 10 but consistently fights for the UFC for years should make enough to live a middle class lifestyle and be financially secure.
Exactly. Good post all around.
I suppose it comes down to if you want them paid off value or a moral scale, for lack of better term. I sympathetic to the latter but it's an argument that appeals to far less people I imagine.Personally I don't agree with this, guys like Francis get paid just fine.
Also sympathetic to this, but I would be careful for 2 reasons.But for the guys on the prelims on their first contract getting paid more can mean the difference between being able to quit their day job or move to a better camp.
I would hilariously but also semi seriously argue Jones would be less of a menace if he was paid more and active. Idle hands and all that.Certain guys at the top should be paid less if anything, for instance Jones with more money is just a greater menace to society.
I would be curious how many fighters stick around and try to work their way up the latter because of what they are being paid currently or the mirage of what they can make if they are the top guys. Combat sports have always been a ponzi scheme of sort, everyone thinks they can be champ even though it's clearly illogical given there are only a dozen slots for that or whatever.Invest in the lower end fighters to build the sport, not in these Divas at the top so they can total sports cars and burn through cocaine.
Where did I say rich man bad? lol. I clearly don't think so since Ngannou is in the top couple percent for American income atm. I like better paid fighters since they perform better. Get over yourself if seeing opinions on a forum offends your delicate sensibilities.you and every other do nothing bitch on this thing are the reason why Ngannou and the others don't get paid. because you got no heart, and no backbone except to post safely from your basement about how "rich man bad" and how terrible it is for dumb people to get taken advantage of. go DO something.
I mean...how many fighters in the UFC are from say, sub-Saharan Africa or Haiti? I get context, but it's not particularly relevant here.If you now speak of CAREERS, one must note that lower income economies, which probably consist of a MAJORITY of the world's population, only have per capita income of around 1000 dollars.
Sometimes it helps to know more about the world, i.e. Beyond the cozy comforts of your Western abode.
Uhhh, have you ever hung around elite institutions? Sure some do, but plenty fail their way upwards and are bailed out by connections lol.The corporate world, people have been studying since 5 years old amd paying to go to college to get that job. Lol
No room and board, meal plans, advice, facilities, etc. IT's really a benefit only if you train out of Vegas. There are also downsides to it given the UFC likely collects data on fighters.I mean, is it a room, board, training facilities, and sparring partners provided type of thing or is it more personal training (fitness) and expired Reebok coupons?
This is a very important point to remember. USA (to take one country) is only around 4.3% of the entire planet's population. Not political or economic influence, not GDP, but...purely headcount of Human Beings Walking this Planet. About 4.3%, that's it.Now that, bud, is interesting.
If you now speak of CAREERS, one must note that lower income economies, which probably consist of a MAJORITY of the world's population, only have per capita income of around 1000 dollars.
Sometimes it helps to know more about the world, i.e. Beyond the cozy comforts of your Western abode.
He does not, you're right.I'd agree if your statement were true, but I severely doubt Ngannou owns a private jet.
What other athletes can only compete 3-4 times a year and don't have their training paid for?
No one needs a 500k watch while your home country has starving children. Js
They literally don't pay for any fighters' training camp. They pay them for the fight. The fighter is expected to train as part of preparing for the fight that gives him the actual payoff....
Ummm......., almost EVERY other sport does that. Pro football, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, rugby, cricket, etc... They all provide training facilities and coaches (both on AND off season), doctors, physical therapy, rehab, nutrition, medical insurance, travel expenses, hotel expenses. And that's ON TOP OF the athlete's salary.
Dude, he’s from a third world country. How do you represent? With a 500k timepiece?There are plenty of starving children right here in America, no one needs to be a billionaire in America then, let's spread the wealth.
It's the difference between employees and contractors. And also, does the UFC not use footage featuring fighters not fighting and sell merch with their likeness? Or say, the UFC videogame.
I swear, those people would rather fighters just get off their couch and show up to fight with no training lol.
Boxing? In general all combat sports?
So you think Team players don't get paid to train? Lol
LOL, nope not rich.
Former broker who's a daytrader.
I grew up in Detroit, not exactly known for being an uber wealthy city
And? Contacts aren't automically unbreakable upon signing. For example, one can't sign themselves into indentured servitude.All that's in the contracts they sign willingly.
That’s irrelevant. Nobody cares how much they train. If they don’t fight, they don’t get paid at all. If they fight 6 times per year, they get paid 6 times. They get paid only for the time they spent competing. In other major sports, like basketball or football they actually get paid to train, even if they don’t compete.To go and perform to a level where they can make repeat income from it requires year round commitment.
Perhaps a better argument would be to say that people train year round anyway, and actually pay to do so. But again, if these people miss a session here and there then they don’t pay it back in the octagon as their cardio fails them fighting a guy who never missed a day, a guy who doesn’t even drink because his religion doesn’t allow it.