Social Pentagon pilots have reported 11 ‘near misses’ with UFOs

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This is not a UFO thread. This is about the hearings on the UFOs which are in front of congress. What do you guys think this will amount to? I'm really curious. A lot of this stuff does not move like anything the Russian's have. This is a legit military report so this is not any conspiracy thing.


https://breakingdefense.com/2022/05...hSzMDIIKwMqrqbRjT9Paq7ScyKcUh4wTAe9A_w1ihqX7s
WASHINGTON: Military pilots have reported almost a dozen dangerous close approaches with what the Defense Department now calls “unidentified aerial phenomena” — and the general public calls UFOs — a senior Navy official told lawmakers today during the first open hearing on the issue in some 50 years.

“We’ve had at least 11 near misses,” over a 20 year period studied by the Pentagon, Scott Bray, the deputy director of naval intelligence, told a House Permanent Select Intelligence subcommittee. He added that military pilots have neither tried to communicate with a UAP, or fired upon one, during that time period.

Last November, DoD created the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG) under the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD(I&S) to take over from the Navy’s UAP Task Force.

That group was established in the wake of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence’s June 2021 “preliminary assessment” of reported UAP incidents [PDF]. That study examined 144 incidents dating back two decades — and could only explain a single one of them away.

Further, the report found: “In 18 incidents, described in 21 reports, observers reported unusual UAP movement patterns or flight characteristics. Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or move at considerable speed, without discernable means of propulsion.”

The Pentagon, however, is keen to make clear that it is serious about UAPs, which lawmakers have fretted could be counterintelligence operations by adversaries using advanced technologies. And thus DoD officials are urging operators to come forward with reports.

Ronald Moultrie, DoD I&S undersecretary, said in his opening remarks that the Pentagon is aware “there has been a ‘cultural stigma’ surrounding UAP reporting. Our goal is to eliminate this stigma by fully incorporating our operators and mission personnel into a standardized data gathering process.”

It seems to be working. Since the release of the preliminary report, a database developed by the Navy’s UAP Task Force has grown to 400 reported incidents, Bray said. “The stigma has been reduced,” he added.



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Rep. André Carson, D-Ind., who chairs the counterterrorism, counterintelligence and counterproliferation subcommittee holding the hearings, pushed Moultrie for reassurances that DoD is looking at each incident with an open mind about its possible cause.

“You know, we fear sometimes that the DoD is focused more on emphasizing what it can explain, not investigating what it can’t. Looking for you to assure us today that all conclusions are on the table,” he said in his opening statement.

Moultrie responded that DoD is “open to all hypotheses, we’re open to any conclusions that we may encounter.” However, he added, “it is the department’s contention that, by combining appropriately structured collected data with rigorous scientific analysis, any object that we encounter can likely be isolated, characterized, identified, and, if necessary, mitigated.”

Moultrie explained that his office is in the throes of establishing the AOIMSG — although he noted that the name of the group is likely to change. And, he said, the Pentagon “just this week” has chosen a director, although he did not name that individual.


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“That office’s function is clear: to facilitate the identification of previously unknown or unidentified airborne objects in a methodical, logical and standardized manner. These goals will ensure that we are working closely with operational personnel on training and reporting requirements; developing data and intelligence requirements; standardizing and integrating processes and procedures for collection, operational surveillance, analysis and reporting; leveraging our research and development capabilities to improve detection, characterization and identification of UAPs; developing mitigating solutions and procedures and identifying strategy and policy solutions,” he said.

“This effort will maximize collaboration and build upon already existing relationships with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FAA, DHS and the FBI. We are also committed to strong partnerships with the Department of Energy, NOAA, the DEA, NASA, and the National Labs, and just as importantly, our national partners and allies,” he added.

Moultrie said that his office has worked with all the services to develop standardized reporting practices — including the Space Force, even though up to now the public focus largely has been on airborne UAPS. Further, the Intelligence Community is “on board and helping us work through this standardized methodology,” he said, noting that this is the first time the Pentagon has has such a process.

“We’re now bringing in data, analyzing that data, and reporting that data in the appropriate means, either get it to our service personnel to ensure their safety, or get it to you and the Congress and to the public,” he added.

Moultrie and Bray provided little specific information on questions such as the potential threat from advanced adversaries that some of the UAP reports might indicate, demurring answers to the closed classified portion of the hearing to follow the public one. Moultrie also refused to discuss whether any underwater UAPs have been detected.

“With regard to the importance of transparency, the department is fully committed to the principle of openness and accountability to the American people. However, we are also mindful of our obligation to protect sensitive sources and methods,” he said.
 
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Likelihood it's ufo's-.05 percent
likelihood it's a desperate attempt to distract from $6/gal gas and food prices rising 20 percent every month-99.95 percent

Likelihood its aliens is .05 percent. UFOs are by definition unidentified flying objects.
 
Or, and stay with me here, there's a bunch of instances of pilots mistakenly thinking they saw a ufo when there was an optical illusion, equipment malfunction, or some other easily explainable event. Nah, that's crazy.
Hold on, there's a bigfoot outside, gonna try to get a pic.
The military has been gearing up for decades on this one...waiting for just the right time distract everyone from gas prices.

<YeahOKJen>
 
Or, and stay with me here, there's a bunch of instances of pilots mistakenly thinking they saw a ufo when there was an optical illusion, equipment malfunction, or some other easily explainable event. Nah, that's crazy.
Hold on, there's a bigfoot outside, gonna try to get a pic.
You said this was a sham to distract from gas prices dingbat.

Fuck Bigfoot.
 
Pretty sure that’s the whole plot for Top Gun Maverick.
 
Or, and stay with me here, there's a bunch of instances of pilots mistakenly thinking they saw a ufo when there was an optical illusion, equipment malfunction, or some other easily explainable event. Nah, that's crazy.
Hold on, there's a bigfoot outside, gonna try to get a pic.
Lemme get this straight:

- It's caught on video
- It's detected by RADAR and other tracking equipment
- It's witnessed by the pilots themselves

People still wanna call bullshit?

There really is no convincing people like you.
 
i listened to the entire hearing yesterday, there was another "closed" hearing where they discussed the good stuff not open to the public, they basically just said there are weird things happening according to available reports and the idea was that having a media event like that would help alleviate some of the "stigma" around reporting these incidents, no really cool new info being presented and a whole lot of jargon and needless wordiness

call them uaps not ufos now, AOIMSG (amigos rearranged) organization for investigating, guy mentioned maelstrom incident in montana, SAPS and CAPS put around sensitive information, talked about project blue book a little, 2004 nimitz incident mentioned, radio frequencies reported coming from crafts, detailed question about multiple sensor detection pushed to closed session same with question about underwater sensor detection, talked about blue on blue issue between AOIMSG and secret air development programs

some of my notes that stood out^
 
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Yea, they travelled all those light years, got past all the satellites in space undetected to accidentally almost run into some ass flying a Cessna or some shit.

To be fare,

Most satellites are much smaller then a Cessna...
 
Yea, they travelled all those light years, got past all the satellites in space undetected to accidentally almost run into some ass flying a Cessna or some shit.
You are making quite a few assumptions:

You think they're Aliens.
You think they are actively trying to stay undetected.
You think they accidentally avoided a crash with a plane.
 
Well according to the article it's been happening for 20 years with 11 instances. Why not have hearings 50 years ago when it first happened? That argument kind of supports my side more than yours to be honest
The military has been gearing up for decades on this one...waiting for just the right time distract everyone from gas prices.

<YeahOKJen>
 
This is sort of like the stories where a creature washes up on the beach and everybody thinks it's some kind of prehistoric thing from the Marianas trench and it turns out to be a whale corpse
 
Well according to the article it's been happening for 20 years with 11 instances. Why not have hearings 50 years ago when it first happened? That argument kind of supports my side more than yours to be honest

The Cold War was going on so there was a reason not to be transparent
 
Likelihood it's ufo's-.05 percent
likelihood it's a desperate attempt to distract from $6/gal gas and food prices rising 20 percent every month-99.95 percent

oh, the hubris of humanity that I will encounter in this thread…

thanks for kicking things off.
 
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