Mexican Gloves - Review

FYI, Torres Medina has a new model that they are making that looks really nice. I have one of the early versions which had a really big hand compartment, and these new ones are supposed to be a lot more tighter and refined since the early ones.

Production time is 16 weeks though, so be prepared to wait for a custom.
 
FYI, Torres Medina has a new model that they are making that looks really nice. I have one of the early versions which had a really big hand compartment, and these new ones are supposed to be a lot more tighter and refined since the early ones.

Production time is 16 weeks though, so be prepared to wait for a custom.

16 weeks!?? Damn that's a really long time man... I don't think I would have the patience.

Would you mind posting your customs once you get em?
 
16 weeks!?? Damn that's a really long time man... I don't think I would have the patience.

Would you mind posting your customs once you get em?
Ya for sure, I'll post pics and give my opinion on them here.

I'm used to sword commissions which take over a year so no biggie for me.
 
FYI, Torres Medina has a new model that they are making that looks really nice. I have one of the early versions which had a really big hand compartment, and these new ones are supposed to be a lot more tighter and refined since the early ones.

Production time is 16 weeks though, so be prepared to wait for a custom.

What is new model? What padding used and stuff

I've heard their horse hair gloves are shite
 
What is new model? What padding used and stuff

I've heard their horse hair gloves are shite
These:

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These are latex padding. Never tried their horse hair. I believe the old TM's I have are latex as well and they have held up very nice.

I got 16 oz for the purpose of sparring.
 
These:

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These are latex padding. Never tried their horse hair. I believe the old TM's I have are latex as well and they have held up very nice.

I got 16 oz for the purpose of sparring.
Nah the main glove from tm is Polyurethane padding

Wonder what the latex would be like
 
Good day, long time lurker here, finally decided to join discussion.

Could you please share your experience with piping on Mexican gloves? I know that Cleto uses some plastic for piping, is that a standard in Mexico, or are others using real leather piping? I've heard complaints about it on Casanova as well. I have plastic on my Twins BGV3 and it is flaking a lot after 2 years of use. Winning has synthetic piping, same material as their headgear l think, and it seems indestructible. I am in the process of searching Mexican gloves, leaning towards Casanova/Necalli, but living in europe, I would hate go through all the trouble of importing them, just to find cheap plastic piping finish...
 
Good day, long time lurker here, finally decided to join discussion.

Could you please share your experience with piping on Mexican gloves? I know that Cleto uses some plastic for piping, is that a standard in Mexico, or are others using real leather piping? I've heard complaints about it on Casanova as well. I have plastic on my Twins BGV3 and it is flaking a lot after 2 years of use. Winning has synthetic piping, same material as their headgear l think, and it seems indestructible. I am in the process of searching Mexican gloves, leaning towards Casanova/Necalli, but living in europe, I would hate go through all the trouble of importing them, just to find cheap plastic piping finish...

All the piping on the Mexican gloves I've reviewed are 100% leather.

In regards to the casanovas I've got nothing but good things to say about them, granted mine where an older model and 16oz but the pocket was fairly large, from my knowledge they have made adjustments to make them a tad sleeker. I think there may of been even more adjustments recently and they have made amendments to the design features (weight tag location, print inside of the wrist/palm) I don't think the quality hasn't dwindled though.

Also if you look at some of my post you'll find the man in the know who can get you gloves over from Mexico to the EU....be prepared to be poor once you've bought your first glove though, it ends up been an addiction.
 
Thanks, good to hear that they are mostly leather. I think I am going to pull the trigger. Do you think Casanova or GiL will be better as a first ever Mexican glove? I am planning to get velcro, 14oz, for heavy bag use.
 
Thanks, good to hear that they are mostly leather. I think I am going to pull the trigger. Do you think Casanova or GiL will be better as a first ever Mexican glove? I am planning to get velcro, 14oz, for heavy bag use.
GIL is a safer bet. I can see some people not liking Casanova gloves, bit more rough and awkward
 
Thanks, good to hear that they are mostly leather. I think I am going to pull the trigger. Do you think Casanova or GiL will be better as a first ever Mexican glove? I am planning to get velcro, 14oz, for heavy bag use.

What gloves do you use now? Both GiL and Casanova has sand paper for their liner, so be prepared for that. Also, a pair of 14oz Velcro Gil will be 18 to 20 oz cause how the thick the leather will be and the extra weight from the strap
 
What gloves do you use now? Both GiL and Casanova has sand paper for their liner, so be prepared for that. Also, a pair of 14oz Velcro Gil will be 18 to 20 oz cause how the thick the leather will be and the extra weight from the strap

I am using Twins BGVL3 and Winning MS300, they're both good and comfy, but I want to try that Mexican "snap" response on the bag. Also I like the oldschool, beautifuly ugly look of gloves like Casanova.
 
So idk if you guys know, but @Edgar Martinez aka "The Boxing Collector" started his own line of gloves called "Bayonetta". They're marketed a "traditional Mexican puncher's glove" with premium materials, with the liner highlighted specifically (and of course that beautiful Mexican leather we've all come to love). It has a slim profile and is apparently adequate for all forms of training.

I've really wanted some Boxeo TM gloves, but for whatever reason we can't quite get it right. After a few weeks of waiting for some new Boxeo TM stock (I wasn't interested in trying the new model) I decided to pull the trigger on some Bayonetta's. In fact it's this very pair. What do you guys say, they should be in by the end of the week, early next week at the latest, who's interested in an initial impressions review?
 
So idk if you guys know, but @Edgar Martinez aka "The Boxing Collector" started his own line of gloves called "Bayonetta". They're marketed a "traditional Mexican puncher's glove" with premium materials, with the liner highlighted specifically (and of course that beautiful Mexican leather we've all come to love). It has a slim profile and is apparently adequate for all forms of training.

I've really wanted some Boxeo TM gloves, but for whatever reason we can't quite get it right. After a few weeks of waiting for some new Boxeo TM stock (I wasn't interested in trying the new model) I decided to pull the trigger on some Bayonetta's. In fact it's this very pair. What do you guys say, they should be in by the end of the week, early next week at the latest, who's interested in an initial impressions review?
More reviews the better, so go for it. That being said, from that link - these look almost exactly like Casanova/Necallis, with the large hand pocket. They'd probably perform the same, which is good, as Casanovas are some of the best Mexican gloves available.
 
More reviews the better, so go for it. That being said, from that link - these look almost exactly like Casanova/Necallis, with the large hand pocket. They'd probably perform the same, which is good, as Casanovas are some of the best Mexican gloves available.
Actually it's a slimmer glove, Edgar told me to get at least 16 OZ for larger hands. They're more similar to Classics and almost identical to Angeles, because they're produced by them. Edgar just added some modifications to the wrist, liner, and thumb (and of course the colorway).

Nice just wanted to gauge interest. I'm thinking about picking up a pair of Angeles and doing a comparison review if enough of you are interested.
 
Hey guys, sorry for lagging on my initial impressions of Bayonetta and Angeles. I should have them up by the latest Tuesday. Unfortunately haven't had much time for myself as I've been taking care of someone in my family.

For now though, I just wanted to offer you guys in the US another Mexican Glove supplier with fair pricing and free shipping. Supplies are pretty limited, but I'm sure with your support they'll begin to stock more options. The site is fighters boutique out of Atlanta, Georgia, check them out!

https://fightersboutique.com/collections/boutique-gloves?page=1

They currently have:
.Campeon
.Classics
.New Sporting
.Lopez
.Angeles

They're open to customer suggestions if you'd like them to stock a certain brand.
 
Angeles - Classic Line:


Ordered directly from Angeles in México City through WhatsApp (most Mexican glove companies communicate through this app), along with the blue premium pair. I was looking for 16 oz, but they were completely out of stock; however, they mentioned they can make more.

I was gutted, until Valeria responded by saying it only takes three days! I was even allowed to pick lace, piping, and leather color. Keep in mind they considered these "stock gloves" because they made inventory for themselves too.

So I basically got semi custom gloves at stock prices all made within 3 days and not 6-12 weeks. Again this is not typical, so please don't expect this from them and don't be pushy, if they have inventory in your color and size, take it.

As far as first impressions go, the first thing that hit me was the strong smell of the dye. I had to air out my room, lol. That said, it was a welcome smell to me, it only further assured me my gloves were indeed recently made. Beautiful red leather, not quite New Sporting quality, but imo opinion better than my Cleto Reyes (more thickness). Love the profile of the glove, the slimmest amongst the Mexican brands I own (New Sporting, Cleto, Campeon on the way) and the flattest punch surface. Thumb is attached and has a straight (not curved) placement. It's feels pretty "hard" in the thumb area compared to other gloves, not uncomfortable, but hard (almost semi cast like).

I'm going to comment on the stitching, but please don't bite my head of you don't agree, it's my first glove review. They're double stitched in some areas (palm, wrist, inner fingers) and single stitched in others (pretty much all long the top of the glove, belly side has the double stich). In the spirit of transparency I must say that I've only slid these gloves in my hands and already along the upper wrist area the threads appear to be stressed after a single wear (left glove only). To be fair, I don't expect this to effect functionality or durability, mainly an aesthetic issue, but I know how you guys are about pretty gloves ;)




Wrist support appears to lacking at a glance (the glove is a little flimsy/ top heavy when held from the cuff) bit when I put the glove on, it feels solid. Definitely has a decent amount of padding on both sides of the wrist, but it's a soft foam, where as other glove company's use hard foam here, which is most likely the culprit of the seemingly flimsy wrist.


Now the main event, the hand pocket. Slipping into the gloves is fairly difficult if you have larger hands, so make sure you unlace them. Edgar recommended I pick up 16 oz and no lower if you have large hands (when I was inquiring about Bayoneta) and he was definitely right. When sliding my hands in with wraps and knuckle guard, I have a good amount of space to move around, but I expect I'll need to break them in before I get a knuckle guard in there, wraps (even long ones) shouldn't be a problem. So I won't be punching at full power when breaking these hush puppies in. The liner is actually pretty nice for Mexican gloves, that said, the hand area has semi cast, hard feel to it over the top of the fingers. I don't expect to feel it with wraps on, but none of my other gloves feel this way. All three pair have this to a varying degree, with Bayoneta being the least offensive. That said I can't say for sure how this effects performance until I actually try them out.

Overall my first impressions are that these are quality gloves and I can't wait to try them out! Solid construction and good looking imo. I'll definitely know more in a month when I do my follow up review after breaking in all three pairs. I kept them mint to do a collective initial impression for you guys, next is a collective in depth review.

I'm open to all questions through here or dm. Please let me know if there's anything I left out, I'd like to improve my review style. Other than that, stay tuned.

*Don't expect the next two to be as thorough, as they're pretty much the same glove, I'll only be pointing out the differences*

Price: $1600 (gloves) + $900 (FedEx shipping) MX pesos = ~$125USD
 
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Angeles - Premium Line:

These bad boys are in a special blue that they don't typically carry. I was bummed at first because I really wanted the glossy navy they posted on their IG (super sexy). That all changed when I received them and I realized they're the exact same blue as the glossy parts of my Nike Machomai's, f yeah! They look great together.

According to Valeria the main difference between the Classic and Premium line are slightly different filling/padding (rellenos in Spanish directly translates to filling), the Angeles cursive stamp, a slightly smoother hand pocket and thumb (see cast like comments from the Classic line review), and the option for triple cuff, which I meant to ask for, but I forgot to with all the leather confusion.

Though the hand compartment and thumb do still have some of that semi cast feel, I do feel that is slightly dulled in the premiums. I want to reiterate from the classics review that I don't think this will effect performance because I'm not even sure I'll be able to feel this through my wraps, but I will definitely update you guys in my in depth review.

I'd also like to add that I may have undersold the liner in the classics line review (premium is the same liner), but it's the best out of all of the made in Mexico brands I've personally tried, including New Sporting. That said, I can't speak for third party Mexican glove resellers like Salvador, Russian Boxer, Bryant Boxing, etc. As I've never tried them.

Premiums have the same semi-floppy wrist, but again, I don't think this will effect wrist support since the wrist is very well padded. Hand pocket is also identical, other than it has slightly less of that semi cast feel. The glossy leather is really nice and is softer and feels slightly thicker than the one from the Classic line.

Overall thoughts? I love them, these are definitely keepers, won't ever get rid of them. Can't wait to spar the little hard asses that use Cleto with them. They look absolutely amazing, and feel pretty good on my hands (which I suspect will only improve as I break them in). As you can see from the initial review, there is no reason to purchase the classic line, the premium line is better and only $5 USD more.

Price: $1700 (gloves) + $900 (FedEx shipping) = ~$130USD



 
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Bayoneta - Classics:

I picked these up because Edgar offered me a heavy discount after a pair of New Sportings I ordered from him came in severely scratched (metallic leather). Have to thank Edgar for making things right and looking out for the customer he's a great dude and true boxing fan who understands the needs of fighters and hobbyists alike. I'll admit I was super bummed at first because everyone kept saying if you want New Sportings without all the issues, you go to Edgar. I have 4 pair of New Sportings and the only ones that came with any issues were handled by Edgar. So my experience isn't like what I've read the majorities is. That said, know that if anything ever does go wrong, Edgar will be there to rectify it, he's a man of his word. Thanks again sir!

First impressions? What immediately catches your eye is the welted seems. Niether of my Angeles glove have them, nor where they offered, and it looks great on this type of glove (imo of course). Colors and leather equal to Angeles (plus this colorway matches my Everlast low top boots). These come standard with the triple cuff, which is an option only for Angeles premium.

Edgar mentioned he mainly focused on the wrist, thumb, liner, and hand pocket as improvements from the flagship Angeles gloves, and trust me people, it shows! The Bayoneta's don't have any of that wrist droopiness. It looks like he addressed this by using a different material in the wrist and inserting it as a semi cylindrical foam. In contrast, the the Angeles have a little less foam, and it's shaped more rectangular.

The thumb and hand pocket have completely eliminated the the semi-cast feel that I got from both the classic and premium line Angeles. Though slipping your hand is a joy because of this, I don't feel any difference in the liner. Tbf I didn't order Angeles until after my Bayoneta, so perhaps Angeles changed their standard liner after they started making gloves for Edgar. Overall Edgar's improvements could definitely be felt and they match the gloves performance with high level comfort!

Overall thoughts? Another keeper, an amazing glove. Love how they look and feel. The Bayoneta tag and logo are tasteful and I'm really happy that Edgar decided to put his stamp on the cuff rather than the striking surface. I don't like the way it looks, it really bummed me out when New Sporting started to do it, especially since all Mexican brand glove stamps have a reputation for peeling easily. A definite improvement in comfort over both versions of Angeles (that can definitely be felt), though I suspect all three gloves will perform similarly. Pick them up from Edgar at the Boxing Collector website!

Price: $219USD (gloves) + $35.04 USD (VAT) + $10USD (shipping) = $264.04 USD

*I did the math for how he may have calculated VAT, it's basically sales tax (8%) x2. So %16, but I couldn't make sense of the number until I thought about it as sales tax.


 
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