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So? Ground game is a lot more than submission offense and Gane has only submitted cans.

Good for him, he submitted a can.

Don't assume my opinion is what other people have said, Mousasi was a great MW but he also fought at LHW and HW which resulted in more losses than if he had just stuck to MW. He wasn't the best MW ever but he was definitely a top 10 MW all time and I have him not far outside the top 5 and he...

That same Overeem would have folded Gane in Gane's UFC debut. He's always had great trips from the clinch and great GnP and ground game. The fact that you have to bring up Sergei's UFC debut 8 fights ago 6 years ago makes your argument weak as fuck. Especially since you can't debate any of the...

He chose fight plenty of times, it generally resulted in him being TKOed. Watch his Pride fights. The only times he has been able to recover from being rocked is when he is able to get away for a bit to let his body stop short circuiting. That's not a heart thing that's a nervous system issue...

Won more fights in a row then Gane prior to losing to Jones/Aspinall( 6 fight win streak vs no win streak). Beat mutual competition faster and more easily than Gane(Lewis, Tai).

I never understood why people questioned Overeem's heart, he just looks like he has a nervous system issue where he gets sort of frozen by big shots but isn't fully unconscious and just literally can't defend himself cause his body isn't functioning correctly, Mir seems to have the same thing...

King Mo fought his whole career at 205 and HW and was a great wrestler. Mousasi was notorious for having poor TDD and the fight was won by 1 round and was even controversial back before the scoring criteria was changed and Mousasi was his best at 185 and this is a thread bout how he would do...

Mousasi is a 185er not a 205er, style wise those guys also match up better as both have strong TDD. Besides like I said in my previous post with the modern judging criteria Mousasi probably would have won.

You're underrated King Mo, the fact that it was at 205 and not 185 and that style match ups matter. Besides like I said in my previous post with the modern judging criteria Mousasi probably would have won.

I don't think it's so much that as a lot of newer fans just talk shit about fighters that were passed their primes before they started watching and don't know what they were actually good at. Shogun in his prime was primarily a striker but frequently went for takedowns to land very hard strikes...

King Mo KOed Jiri on the feet and was one of the best wrestlers to ever compete at 205. Besides, it was a close loss where Mo won 3 rounds via top control but got beat up pretty badly in the fight. With the judging criteria we have now Mo probably would have lost 48-47 instead of winning 48-47.

At his best Mousasi would probably win but he's like 3-6 years passed his best maybe more.

Wouldn't be close to 50/50. Prime Shogun had great takedowns and had some of the best GnP ever at 205. He would have taken Alex down and beat the crap out of him on the ground.

From memory Shogun broke his rib in the clinch early.

You can't judge fights by totals, fights aren't judged as a whole and there were no takedowns in rounds 1-3 so getting takedowns in round 4 or 5 doesn't win you previous rounds.

Easy fight to score 1, 2, 3 for Reyes and no 10-8 rounds.

Same as Gus 1 and Reyes but better if he can.

Yeah, I don’t know why he seems to think either looked bad. Costa added new tools to his game and looked better than ever and Whittaker looked rejuvenated after the DDP loss and looked to me like he's still a title contender.

Couldn't smash the only 2 ranked WWs he's ever fought and I think he's going to have even tougher fights with top 15 MWs.