Crime 9 Civilians Killed in US Airstrike in Kabul, including 6 children

SBJJ said:
So imminent that they tracked him all day.

Just stop dude. Stop defending shit that should never have been done.
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US intel tracks a lot of foreigners. Unless they are seen to be doing something that indicates an imminent attack, why would the US deploy resources to confront the person?
 
MicroBrew said:
US intel tracks a lot of foreigners. Unless they are seen to be doing something that indicates an imminent attack, why would the US deploy resources to confront the person?
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If they were so justified then why the lies about the secondary explosion.

They would have a record of the munitions deployed so don't give me an "information at the time" or "we believed this or that"
 
Crom Cruach said:
If they were so justified then why the lies about the secondary explosion.

They would have a record of the munitions deployed so don't give me an "information at the time" or "we believed this or that"
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They believed there were secondary explosions. It isn't a lie if they genuinely believed it, based on the drone camera feed.
 
MicroBrew said:
They believed there were secondary explosions. It isn't a lie if they genuinely believed it, based on the drone camera feed.
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You're working hard here. The claim was at one point that a non-explosive missile was used.
 
uhhh, they were obviously terrorists. did you read their names?
 
MicroBrew said:
US intel tracks a lot of foreigners. Unless they are seen to be doing something that indicates an imminent attack, why would the US deploy resources to confront the person?
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Because deploying them could lead to US deaths. That is the reason. And only reason in this case.

A COWARDLY HAPHAZARDLY way to do it. And it resulted in the blood of children being spilled.
 
Crom Cruach said:
You're working hard here. The claim was at one point that a non-explosive missile was used.
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The news reports at the time - from mainstream media - stated the US had used a drone to strike a vehicle whose driver was believed to be an ISIS-K suicide bomber. There was no mention of the strike being carried out by a kinetic energy weapon.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...litary-strike-kabul-officials-say-2021-08-29/

One U.S. official said Sunday's strike was carried out by an unmanned aircraft and that secondary explosions following the strike showed the vehicle had been carrying a "substantial amount of explosive material."

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According to a senior U.S. official, the U.S. military drone fired a Hellfire missile at a vehicle in a compound between two buildings after individuals were seen loading explosives into the trunk. The official said there was an initial explosion caused by the missile, followed by a much larger fireball, believed to be the result of the substantial amount of explosives inside the vehicle. The U.S. believes that two Islamic State group individuals who were targeted were killed.

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-kabul-us-taliban-9da4da11b5c8d00445b57aee297bd270
 
SBJJ said:
Because deploying them could lead to US deaths. That is the reason. And only reason in this case.

A COWARDLY HAPHAZARDLY way to do it. And it resulted in the blood of children being spilled.
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Ofcourse it could lead to US deaths, and every President wants to prevent such a scenario as much as possible. Deploying soldiers could also have lead to a firefight with the Taleban leading to dead US soldiers and the suspected ISIS-K suicide bomber free to go on his way.

It isn't cowardly because the US military felt an attack was imminent, so they used the method with the best chance of stopping the bomber.
 
lol since this thread is so much about calling out hypocrisy.


Would @MicroBrew be schilling this hard for the government if this attack was done under Trump's administration?

Or what if China conducted a drone bombing of a Muslim they suspected of a terror plot that turned out to be loading up water to aid the poor and suffering?

Shit's disgusting. The military fucked up, people died because of that fuck up, they should be held liable for their fuckup, professionally and criminally.
 
Clifford_Harris said:
lol since this thread is so much about calling out hypocrisy.


Would @MicroBrew be schilling this hard for the government if this attack was done under Trump's administration?

Or what if China conducted a drone bombing of a Muslim they suspected of a terror plot that turned out to be loading up water to aid the poor and suffering?

Shit's disgusting. The military fucked up, people died because of that fuck up, they should be held liable for their fuckup, professionally and criminally.
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Micro thinks Obama deserved the Nobel peace prize. Oof.
 
MicroBrew said:
The news reports at the time - from mainstream media - stated the US had used a drone to strike a vehicle whose driver was believed to be an ISIS-K suicide bomber. There was no mention of the strike being carried out by a kinetic energy weapon.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...litary-strike-kabul-officials-say-2021-08-29/

One U.S. official said Sunday's strike was carried out by an unmanned aircraft and that secondary explosions following the strike showed the vehicle had been carrying a "substantial amount of explosive material."

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According to a senior U.S. official, the U.S. military drone fired a Hellfire missile at a vehicle in a compound between two buildings after individuals were seen loading explosives into the trunk. The official said there was an initial explosion caused by the missile, followed by a much larger fireball, believed to be the result of the substantial amount of explosives inside the vehicle. The U.S. believes that two Islamic State group individuals who were targeted were killed.

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-kabul-us-taliban-9da4da11b5c8d00445b57aee297bd270
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In one post you are saying they could have misinterpreted drone camera footage and on the other you are quoting press releases which emphasizes the size of the secondary explosions "proving" a car bomb. I don't think you see how untenable defending this war crime is.

7 Children died over this bullshit and you want to wriggle around like it's somehow justified.

The dude wasn't even driving towards the airport and they took the cowards way out by firing an anti-tank missile at him. Then instead of admitting they made a mistake they lied and lied. But unlike the last 20 years the American public are actually paying attention to what is happening in Afghanistan. (Probably because of taking their first L since Vietnam)
 
So is there any official/trustworthy info about this?
Was this the US targeting the wrong target?
Or were they the victim of a secondary?
 
Bald1 said:
You don't think it happens? The US government aren't the only bastards out there willing to sacrifice their own in order to rile up support.
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So then isis can say the US was using human shields in kabul airport lol.
 
Crom Cruach said:
In one post you are saying they could have misinterpreted drone camera footage and on the other you are quoting press releases which emphasizes the size of the secondary explosions "proving" a car bomb. I don't think you see how untenable defending this war crime is.

7 Children died over this bullshit and you want to wriggle around like it's somehow justified.

The dude wasn't even driving towards the airport and they took the cowards way out by firing an anti-tank missile at him. Then instead of admitting they made a mistake they lied and lied. But unlike the last 20 years the American public are actually paying attention to what is happening in Afghanistan. (Probably because of taking their first L since Vietnam)
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You said the attack was from a kinetic weapon, I linked you to sources that say nothing about a kinetic weapon. Technically you didn't used the word "kinetic" but if a missile doesn't have an explosive charge, how else but through kinetic energy is it going to destroy the target.

This isn't a war crime, because there was no intentionall plan to murder 7 innocent peopel. Accidents happen in war. Faulty intel happens.

They believed they were taking out an ISIS-K suicide bomber who was heading to the airport. Before the airport bombing that killed over 170, western news media reported that intel reports were stating an attack was imminent. So US and allied intel were one edge. The US genuinely thought another attack was imminent.

What if the guy actually was an ISIS-K suicide bomber and the US knew and did nothing, would you guys be happy with the resulting carnage. Hindsight is real easy.
 
Clifford_Harris said:
lol since this thread is so much about calling out hypocrisy.


Would @MicroBrew be schilling this hard for the government if this attack was done under Trump's administration?

Or what if China conducted a drone bombing of a Muslim they suspected of a terror plot that turned out to be loading up water to aid the poor and suffering?

Shit's disgusting. The military fucked up, people died because of that fuck up, they should be held liable for their fuckup, professionally and criminally.
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You are just spewing shit without actually knowing my post history, because I have strongly criticised Biden for his botched withdrawl. I have said that Biden's brain is out to lunch.

I defended Trump saying "Chyna virus" and defended his plan to block entry from some Muslim majority countries that the liberal press deemed Islamophobic. I defended him because it wasn't anti Muslim / Islamophobic.
 
MicroBrew said:
You said the attack was from a kinetic weapon, I linked you to sources that say nothing about a kinetic weapon. Technically you didn't used the word "kinetic" but if a missile doesn't have an explosive charge, how else but through kinetic energy is it going to destroy the target.

This isn't a war crime, because there was no intentionall plan to murder 7 innocent peopel. Accidents happen in war. Faulty intel happens.

They believed they were taking out an ISIS-K suicide bomber who was heading to the airport. Before the airport bombing that killed over 170, western news media reported that intel reports were stating an attack was imminent. So US and allied intel were one edge. The US genuinely thought another attack was imminent.

What if the guy actually was an ISIS-K suicide bomber and the US knew and did nothing, would you guys be happy with the resulting carnage. Hindsight is real easy.
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What if? They believed?

Holy shit man.

That shit is wrong and that's all that's to it.


7 children, man.

You need to get off that horse.

The real question is... how many other times did they unload on civilians and lie about it like it was "ain't no thang."
 
Crom Cruach said:
What if? They believed?

Holy shit man.

That shit is wrong and that's all that's to it.


7 children, man.

You need to get off that horse.

The real question is... how many other times did they unload on civilians and lie about it like it was "ain't no thang."
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I think it's you who needs to get off that sanctimonious high horse, because you seem to think wars can be fought with zero innocent casualties and no mistakes can ever be made.
 
Yagadot said:
I just can’t keep up with the amount of fuck ups Biden has made in this Afghanistan pull out
<{outtahere}>
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If you remember 2001-2008, the number of fuck ups moving in on Afghanistan and Iraq was off the charts.
 
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